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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Vess1, post: 653759, member: 13650&quot;]If you&#039;re referring to the state of N.J. legal system and many others, I&#039;m sure I agree.&nbsp; It shows N.J. as being a May Issue state so there is probably some way to do it if you wanted to and depending on where you lived, despite the antis.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying it would be easy.&nbsp;&nbsp; Many states, it comes down to the county sherrif in charge on who gets what and what their &#039;opinion&#039; is on the matter.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Notice that Alaska went from no issue, to shall issue to unrestricted.&nbsp; AK and VT are both unrestricted meaning you don&#039;t need a permit at all.&nbsp; Anyone can carry.&nbsp;&nbsp; That is U.S. soil that you share with these folks!</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I understand the legal system is screwed up in a lot of places and sometimes it&#039;s the luck of the draw which county or judge would hear your case...... if it even came to that.&nbsp;&nbsp; &#039;IF&#039; it did, that might be a little easier to go through than getting beaten to death, wouldn&#039;t you say????&nbsp;&nbsp; Sometimes the choice is clear, right is right and you take your chances.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; In self-defense, I think most people realize deadly force is a last resort.&nbsp; Some are completely against people having that ability but they can&#039;t come up with a reasonable alternative for you.&nbsp;&nbsp; You&#039;re just supposed to play the odds to fit their status quo.&nbsp; In their world, anyone faced with this situation should cower down and simply become another victim. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I see it as, the guy didn&#039;t deserve to be beaten to death.&nbsp;&nbsp; In this case the bad guys win.&nbsp; He lost.&nbsp; Society as a whole loses.&nbsp; Now we have to pay for room and board for worthless individuals the rest of their lives.&nbsp; We lost a contributing member of society and gained 3 burdens.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; The anti-gunners will say &quot;that was a terrible thing to happen&quot;, then press on with their agenda, with heads in the sand and no reasonable alternatives.&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;m open and willing to listen to alternatives.&nbsp; In many cases, calling the cops is NOT an available alternative, when there is no time.&nbsp; If there is time, than absolutely.&nbsp; Call them.&nbsp; But then you still might not have time while you wait.&nbsp; A phone isn&#039;t going to save you in a gun fight.&nbsp; Despite what Dateline tells you.&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope most people realize this by now.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; I&#039;m sure this will ruffle some feathers but I view not being at least somewhat prepared for this situation as a lazy, irresponsible, nieve, way for a man to be.&nbsp; I know you can&#039;t win &#039;em all but the percentage should be greatly in your favor with any preparation whatsoever!&nbsp; Especially at home!</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Too many people have been programed by the MSM to have a victim mindset.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know why that is.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;&nbsp; Most people work hard their whole lives to have what they have and get where they&#039;re at.&nbsp; No worthless piece of human garbage should be allowed to so easily take it all away from them in a matter of seconds, no matter what happens as a result of the prevention.</p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Yet in 2009, you can always count on the intellectuals, the sympathizers, to pick a statement like that apart and debate it.&nbsp; lol&nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp; Edit: BTW, I&#039;m not pointing a finger at anyone in this thread.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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