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Message:: [QUOTE="Arizona Jack, post: 340857, member: 9308"]With any luck, I will have a chance to chat with David Lange at the ANA show. I have the utmost respect for David and what he has done, and was out of the loop....did not know he was with NGC. The 22-D in my avatar, I MIGHT pay the show fee to get it NGC slabbed, even if I crack it later if it does not 65, I'm sure it will tho. I have a few rolls of really premium early reds and toners. To talk first and get a feel for them in person will be a great chance to not only learn, but to develop a professional relationship if at all possible. EDIT after troodens post. I think ( real ) TPG's serve a valid purpose and they have made the market better. Some do it with class tho, there is a difference. My distaste for the biggest of them all is growing daily and based in reality. Homerun sized ego and Homerun sized greed can only be tolerated for so long. Profit and business success is the American way and American Dream. Greed is a disease.  NGC is simply the best service, and will get my business in the future, on the minimal slabbing that I do submit.[/QUOTE]