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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8058777, member: 19463"]To me, these miss being a proper pair since the new coin needed to have the same die orientation as the first which would have shown the top and hardly any of the crocodile. Keep looking. I can't recall ever seeing a croc free coin but the random die orientations would seem to make it obvious to be out there. For the 'benefit'(?) of those who came to CT after my period of obsession with these coins, I will link to my page based on what I then called the coins: "Impossible to Grade". These things were so very varied in strike and flan preparation that is is really hard to find one that can be graded using the standard letters. Since I have seen, but not purchased a few more perfect than any I had when my page was written. The image is from that old group of coins. </p><p><a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html</a></p><p><img src="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fim00.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I find the matter less than obvious considering the fact that the reverse makes perfect sense as a commemorative for the city whose residents were veterans of the wars that chained that croc to the tree at Actium. I can see the relation to the prow in one sense but am not 100% sure that the designer of this type was intentionally mimicking the Caesar version. It is a nice theory but not obvious to the least of us. I have not seen Ilish (and could not find a link) so I have no opinion as to the validity of the 'Types'. It is a hard word to search due to the similarity to the fish and the singer. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie77" alt=":pompous:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 8058777, member: 19463"]To me, these miss being a proper pair since the new coin needed to have the same die orientation as the first which would have shown the top and hardly any of the crocodile. Keep looking. I can't recall ever seeing a croc free coin but the random die orientations would seem to make it obvious to be out there. For the 'benefit'(?) of those who came to CT after my period of obsession with these coins, I will link to my page based on what I then called the coins: "Impossible to Grade". These things were so very varied in strike and flan preparation that is is really hard to find one that can be graded using the standard letters. Since I have seen, but not purchased a few more perfect than any I had when my page was written. The image is from that old group of coins. [URL]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/impossible.html[/URL] [IMG]https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/fim00.jpg[/IMG] I find the matter less than obvious considering the fact that the reverse makes perfect sense as a commemorative for the city whose residents were veterans of the wars that chained that croc to the tree at Actium. I can see the relation to the prow in one sense but am not 100% sure that the designer of this type was intentionally mimicking the Caesar version. It is a nice theory but not obvious to the least of us. I have not seen Ilish (and could not find a link) so I have no opinion as to the validity of the 'Types'. It is a hard word to search due to the similarity to the fish and the singer. :pompous:[/QUOTE]
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