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<p>[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 5132506, member: 4298"]Not long thereafter apear, in now roman Gaul, several bronze issues bearing the portraits of Julius Caesar and Octavian (Lugdunum, Vienna) or Agrippa and Octavian/Augustus (Arausio, Nemausus). We usually see these dual portrait coinages as an evolution of the janiform heads, ending with the so famous Nemausus dupondius.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1204346[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="3">Lugdunum dupondius (COPIA) circa 36 BCE - <b>©NAC-2014-05-26</b></font></p><p><font size="3">IMP CAESAR DIVI F DIVI IV[LI] Laureate head of Julius Caesar l. and bareheaded Octavian r., back to back; palm branch between. Rev. Prow r., decorated by dolphin; above, globe and meta. In exergue, COPIA. </font></p><p><font size="3">20,40 gr</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : Giard, Lyon 7. SNG Copenhagen 689. RPC 515.</font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1204345[/ATTACH] </p><p><font size="3">Vienna dupondius (CIV) circa 36 BCE - <b>©Heritage-2018-01-08</b></font></p><p><font size="3">MP CAESAR DIVI F DIVI IVLI, back to back bare heads of Caesar left and Octavian right / C • I • V, prow of quinquireme right. </font></p><p><font size="3">18,76 gr</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : RPC I 517. SNG Copenhagen 703-704.</font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0030-405.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><font size="3"><b>Octavian & Agrippa, AE Dupondius - </b>Arausio mint (Orange), 30-29 BC (Colonia Firma Julia Secundanorum Arausio)</font></p><p><font size="3">IMP DIVI F (IMPerator DIVI Filii), bare heads of Augustus (right) and Agrippa (left), back to back</font></p><p><font size="3">Prow of galley right, ram's head (?) enclosed in a medaillion above</font></p><p><font size="3">17.61 gr - 28 mm.</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : RPC # 533 </font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1204348[/ATTACH] </p><p><b> <font size="3">Augustus & Agrippa, AE Dupondius - </font></b><font size="3">Nemausus mint, after 10 AD</font></p><p><font size="3">4th type</font></p><p><font size="3">IMP DIVI F PP, Laureate heads of Augustus and Agrippa back to back</font></p><p><font size="3">COL NEM, Crocodile chained to palm tree</font></p><p><font size="3">12.84 gr</font></p><p><font size="3">Ref : RCV #1731, Cohen #8 </font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">The evolution of the reverse is interesting to note about too : It’s often been observed that the crocodile on the Nemausus dupondius takes place instead of the galley, its snout symbolizing the rostral part, and the palm the mast we see on the Vienna examples</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">On the following collage, you can see how the mark value on the former As has become a mast on the superstructure of the galley and then the palm above the crocodile. Also the « prophylactic eye » (The « Eye of Horus » had been first used by the egyptians as a decoration on the front part of their vessels. It was later used by other mediterranean cultures to decorate seagoing craft in the belief that it helped to guide the ship safely to its destination - ©Wikipedia), you see on the rostral part of the galley on the Vienna dupondius, is at the exact same place than the crocodile big eye, and gives the same visual effect. The crocodile’s snout is sometimes big enough that it looks like the forepart of the galley too.</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1204347[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4">It’s very easy to find halved dupondii (more of the Nemausus production than the others though) because facing a shortage of small change at that time, people would cut them in two (sometimes in four) smaller parts to get asses or even semis.</font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><img src="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0030-409.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><b> <font size="3">Augustus & Agrippa, AE halved dupondius </font></b><font size="3">- Nemausus, after 10 BC</font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><font size="3">3rd type</font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><font size="3">[IM]P [DI]VI F , Laureate head of Augustus right</font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><font size="3">[COL NEM], Crocodile chained to palm tree</font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><font size="3">6.70 gr</font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><font size="4"><font size="3">Ref : RCV #1730, Cohen # 10 </font></font></font></p><p><font size="3"><br /></font></p><p><br /></p><p>Please post anything you find relevant, such as Janus, galleys, romano-gallic dupondii, halved coins, bacon and sausage...</p><p>Thanks for reading</p><p><br /></p><p>Q[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cucumbor, post: 5132506, member: 4298"]Not long thereafter apear, in now roman Gaul, several bronze issues bearing the portraits of Julius Caesar and Octavian (Lugdunum, Vienna) or Agrippa and Octavian/Augustus (Arausio, Nemausus). We usually see these dual portrait coinages as an evolution of the janiform heads, ending with the so famous Nemausus dupondius. [ATTACH=full]1204346[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Lugdunum dupondius (COPIA) circa 36 BCE - [B]©NAC-2014-05-26[/B] IMP CAESAR DIVI F DIVI IV[LI] Laureate head of Julius Caesar l. and bareheaded Octavian r., back to back; palm branch between. Rev. Prow r., decorated by dolphin; above, globe and meta. In exergue, COPIA. 20,40 gr Ref : Giard, Lyon 7. SNG Copenhagen 689. RPC 515.[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1204345[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3]Vienna dupondius (CIV) circa 36 BCE - [B]©Heritage-2018-01-08[/B] MP CAESAR DIVI F DIVI IVLI, back to back bare heads of Caesar left and Octavian right / C • I • V, prow of quinquireme right. 18,76 gr Ref : RPC I 517. SNG Copenhagen 703-704. [/SIZE] [IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0030-405.jpg[/IMG] [SIZE=3][B]Octavian & Agrippa, AE Dupondius - [/B]Arausio mint (Orange), 30-29 BC (Colonia Firma Julia Secundanorum Arausio) IMP DIVI F (IMPerator DIVI Filii), bare heads of Augustus (right) and Agrippa (left), back to back Prow of galley right, ram's head (?) enclosed in a medaillion above 17.61 gr - 28 mm. Ref : RPC # 533 [/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1204348[/ATTACH] [B] [SIZE=3]Augustus & Agrippa, AE Dupondius - [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3]Nemausus mint, after 10 AD 4th type IMP DIVI F PP, Laureate heads of Augustus and Agrippa back to back COL NEM, Crocodile chained to palm tree 12.84 gr Ref : RCV #1731, Cohen #8 [SIZE=4]The evolution of the reverse is interesting to note about too : It’s often been observed that the crocodile on the Nemausus dupondius takes place instead of the galley, its snout symbolizing the rostral part, and the palm the mast we see on the Vienna examples[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]On the following collage, you can see how the mark value on the former As has become a mast on the superstructure of the galley and then the palm above the crocodile. Also the « prophylactic eye » (The « Eye of Horus » had been first used by the egyptians as a decoration on the front part of their vessels. It was later used by other mediterranean cultures to decorate seagoing craft in the belief that it helped to guide the ship safely to its destination - ©Wikipedia), you see on the rostral part of the galley on the Vienna dupondius, is at the exact same place than the crocodile big eye, and gives the same visual effect. The crocodile’s snout is sometimes big enough that it looks like the forepart of the galley too.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]1204347[/ATTACH] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4]It’s very easy to find halved dupondii (more of the Nemausus production than the others though) because facing a shortage of small change at that time, people would cut them in two (sometimes in four) smaller parts to get asses or even semis.[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][IMG]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11724/0030-409.jpg[/IMG] [/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][SIZE=4][B] [SIZE=3]Augustus & Agrippa, AE halved dupondius [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=3]- Nemausus, after 10 BC[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=3]3rd type[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=3][IM]P [DI]VI F , Laureate head of Augustus right[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=3][COL NEM], Crocodile chained to palm tree[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=3]6.70 gr[/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=3]Ref : RCV #1730, Cohen # 10 [/SIZE][/SIZE] [/SIZE] Please post anything you find relevant, such as Janus, galleys, romano-gallic dupondii, halved coins, bacon and sausage... Thanks for reading Q[/QUOTE]
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