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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8365287, member: 24314"]"jeffB, posted: "I don't run a TPGS, but I do work with databases.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>The database is what you use to MAKE the "cut".</b> How can you tell who's submitted multiple bad coins, <span style="color: #b30000">unless you track <i>every</i> person that <i>ever</i> submits a bad</span> <span style="color: #b30000">coin</span>?"</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">Hey, the light bulb went on but </span><span style="color: #b30000">that's not really necessary</span><span style="color: #660033">! Look, a normal young person inputting coins and shipping them out knows who the customers are and what they sent in. Heck, decades ago I could remember what the coins looked like in an order, what the status of an order was if given one of the better/odd/unusual coins in the order, etc. It was easy. I had a young brain, and I like to think an almost photographic memory. Of course, we only received between 200 and 500 coins a week. I'm only half good at it now due to old age and a larger volume. <b>Now, I only track the customers who send the kind of fakes that PCGS slabs as genuine.</b> What I find is after trying to pass ICG a few times the crooks give up. Makes things interesting because they are going to get something past us. We are not perfect. Additionally, I'm not interested in the customers sending in 95% of the C/F's I see because detecting them is "gravy." I hope they continue to send it the junk fakes that still fool many collectors/dealers. Pays the light bill. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><b>So in summary as I'm really getting tired of posting:</b></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: #660033">I just read my original post that started this again. </span><span style="color: #ff0000">I'm <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie25" alt=":blackeye:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> the bad guy </span><span style="color: #660033">who waisted the time of two posters in this thread. I should have written that when a TPGS sees a state-of-the-art dangerous C/F (like the ones slabbed as genuine already) there should be a private database (access given to TPGS and others like some consultants) to alert other TPGS of suspicious coins. Note, this has been done in the past already with a simple phone call to one or more TPGS's including the customer's name and location. Oh MY <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie80" alt=":shame:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> what's next, a database. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie67" alt=":nailbiting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 8365287, member: 24314"]"jeffB, posted: "I don't run a TPGS, but I do work with databases. [B]The database is what you use to MAKE the "cut".[/B] How can you tell who's submitted multiple bad coins, [COLOR=#b30000]unless you track [I]every[/I] person that [I]ever[/I] submits a bad[/COLOR] [COLOR=#b30000]coin[/COLOR]?" [I][COLOR=#660033]Hey, the light bulb went on but [/COLOR][COLOR=#b30000]that's not really necessary[/COLOR][COLOR=#660033]! Look, a normal young person inputting coins and shipping them out knows who the customers are and what they sent in. Heck, decades ago I could remember what the coins looked like in an order, what the status of an order was if given one of the better/odd/unusual coins in the order, etc. It was easy. I had a young brain, and I like to think an almost photographic memory. Of course, we only received between 200 and 500 coins a week. I'm only half good at it now due to old age and a larger volume. [B]Now, I only track the customers who send the kind of fakes that PCGS slabs as genuine.[/B] What I find is after trying to pass ICG a few times the crooks give up. Makes things interesting because they are going to get something past us. We are not perfect. Additionally, I'm not interested in the customers sending in 95% of the C/F's I see because detecting them is "gravy." I hope they continue to send it the junk fakes that still fool many collectors/dealers. Pays the light bill. :D [B]So in summary as I'm really getting tired of posting:[/B] I just read my original post that started this again. [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]I'm :blackeye: the bad guy [/COLOR][COLOR=#660033]who waisted the time of two posters in this thread. I should have written that when a TPGS sees a state-of-the-art dangerous C/F (like the ones slabbed as genuine already) there should be a private database (access given to TPGS and others like some consultants) to alert other TPGS of suspicious coins. Note, this has been done in the past already with a simple phone call to one or more TPGS's including the customer's name and location. Oh MY :shame: what's next, a database. :nailbiting:[/COLOR][/I][/QUOTE]
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