...Of 3rd Century emperors...(the Gallic kind) Victorinus

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  1. ominus1

    ominus1 Supporter! Supporter

    ..I reckon i was already collecting Gallic emperors, since i done have a coin of Postumus too....:shifty:

    POST YOUR COINS N COMMENTS PEEPS! :) Victorinus 269-71 Gallic emperor Pax 001.JPG Victorinus 269-71 Gallic emperor Pax 004.JPG Billon Victorinus, PAX AVG reverse 269-71(or 268-270) 20mm 2.81gms
     
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  3. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Really nice reverse. A lot of these seem to have really rough reverses, probably with crazy worn dies or something
     
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  4. Justin Lee

    Justin Lee I learn by doing Supporter

    Fun new coin, @ominus1!

    Here's my Victorinus:
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    Victorinus, Ruled 269-271 AD
    BL Antoninianus, Struck 271 AD, 5th em.
    Southern Gallic mint, Treveri (Trier) mint
    Obverse: IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG, bust, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right.
    Reverse: VIRTVS AVG, Soldier, draped, cuirassed, standing right, holding spear in right hand and leaning on shield with left hand.
    References: RIC V 78
    Size: 19mm, 2.0g


    And a Postumus:
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Divo Victorino AE antoninianus 2.38g Cologne mint / Providentia RIC 88 p394
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    I've seen worse. The concept of him being honored by these coins requires more study. What we don't know about the politics of this period would make a large book.

    This is the coin you need to go with that Domitian II you have been wanting. I am surprised these are not sold as coins of his mother who was in charge at the time.
     
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  6. Shea19

    Shea19 Supporter! Supporter

    Nice new pickup, @ominus1!

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    Victorinus, Antoninianus, Mint II 269-270, BI (22 mm, 3.90 g.), Radiate and cuirassed bust r./Rev. PIETAS AVG Pietas, veiled, standing l. sacrificing out of patera over altar at her feet. RIC 57.
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Nice capture, @ominus1 ! Looks like a very high relief. Great job.

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    RI Victorinus 269-270 CE BI Ant Gallic Empire PAX
     
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    Victorinus:

    Type: AE Antoninianus, 19mm 2.7 grams, 268-270 A.D.

    Obverse: IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG - Radiate, draped and cuirsassed bust right

    Reverse: PROVIDENTIA AVG - Providence standing left holding cornucopia, globe at feet

    Southern mint (according to Wildwinds)

    Reference: RIC V - 2

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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Supporter! Supporter

    ..indeed...but Domitian ll might be a tad harder to acquire..:)
     
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  10. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    You gotta Love these types. And you've a fantastic Victorinus!:singing:
    Here's some more Gallic ancestors:
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  11. gsimonel

    gsimonel Supporter! Supporter

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    Victorinus
    Bronze (Billon) Antoninianus
    Gallic Empire, unidentified southern mint
    Obv: IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG
    Rev: SALVS AVG - Salus, standing left, with scepter and patera, feeding snake coiled around altar
    RIC 71, var.
    18x20mm, 2.3g.

    There is a subset of coins minted in Mediolanum in the name of Postumus that some collectors claim were issued by Aureolus. Although a few coins in the name of Aureolus do exist, I'm pretty certain that these have all been dismissed as forgeries. Here's my "Aureolus in the name of Postumus"--whatever--example:
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    Bronze (Billon) Antoninianus
    Mediolanum mint
    Obv: IMP POSTVMVS (bust of Postumus)
    Rev: VIRTVS EQVIT - Mars, walking right, holding spear and shield
    T in exergue
    RIC (Postumus) 388
    19mm, 2.5g.
     
  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    They are on my list , but I have only run into one so far, and it had little to much green (corrosion) on it for me.
     
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  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    If you keep your eyes open you can spot legend variations that pass others by....

    Obv:– IMP C PI VICTORINVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent held in arms
    Minted in Southern mint. struck 269 A.D. at mint II
    Reference:– RIC 65; Elmer 703; AGK (corr.) 21b

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    rather than the standard

    Obv:– IMP C VICTORINVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent held in arms
    Minted in Southern mint.
    Reference:– RIC 67. AGK 21c

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    or even

    Obv:– IMP C PIAV VICTORINVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing left holding two standards
    Minted in Treveri mint.
    Reference:– AGK 5b; RIC 109

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  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I don't really focus on these Gallic emperors but I seem to have acquired a few over the years anyway.

    My most recent Postumus

    Obv:– IMP C POSTVMVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– PACATOR ORBIS, Radiate, draped bust of Sol right.
    Minted in Trier. A.D. 269
    Reference– RIC 317

    3.25g. 19.41 mm. 0 degrees

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    And one of a trio of coins of Marius I bought earlier this year

    Obv:– IMP C MARIVS P F AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– CONCORD MILIT, Clasped hands.
    Minted in Cologne
    Reference– RIC 6; Hunter 3; Schulzki 1b; Elmer 633.

    Found in Poundbury, Dorset in 1986
    3.41 g. 19.99 mm. 180 degrees

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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    I JUST received David Sear's " The Emperors of Rome and Byzantium - Chronological Tables for History Students and Coin Collectors"

    It is a very cool book, composed like a wall calendar, that lists all the Emperors with a bit of info for each one. Easy, quick reference.

    @maridvnvm (THANK YOU) just inspired me to open it up and post my coins of the Gallic Empire and British Empire as he calls the Secessionist Empires of the Late Third Century.

    GALLIC EMPIRE

    POSTUMUS


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    RI Postumus 259-268 CE Antoninianus Cologne Oriens ex tif


    LAELIANUS

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    RI Laelianus CE 269 AE Ant 19mm 3.4g Moguntiacum mint Radiate cuirassed Victory RIC Vb 9 p373


    MARIUS

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    RI Marius 269 Gallic Usurper BI Ant CONCORD MILIT Clasped Hands


    VICTORINUS

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    RI Victorinus 269-270 CE BI Ant Gallic Empire Salus


    TETRICUS I

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    RI Tetricus I 271-274 CE Ant LAETITIA


    TETRICUS II

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    RI Tetricus II 273-274 CE BI Ant SPES w Flower

    DOMITIANUS
    (I believe @maridvnvm has 5 or 6 of these in his collection... :D :D :D ) If wishes were fishes!


    BRITISH EMPIRE

    CARAUSIUS

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    RI Carausius usurper in Britain CE 287–293 BI Ant 4.7g 24mm London radiate cuirassed - PAX AVG Pax stndg l branch scepter S—P RIC V 475


    ALLECTUS

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    RI Allectus 293-296 CE AE Ant PAX


    Thanks, @ominus1 for letting my hijack your thread a bit, but the book is really fun to check against my coins!
     
  16. Dobbin

    Dobbin Active Member

    Hey! I can play! I had a tough time identifying this Victorinus (and a similar contemporary Claudius Gothicus) because they are earlier than I expected and I'm new to this. I'm still researching the details.
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  17. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Basileus Megalos

    I suppose I'll post a Postumus as well. This one features Serapis. I guess "Serapis is my companion" or something to that effect:

    ostumus

    AR Antoninianus

    Obverse: IMP C POSTVMVS PF AVG
    Radiate, draped, cuirassed but right

    Reverse: SERAPI COMITI AVG
    Serapis standing left, raising hand and holding sceptre

    Year: 267 C.E.

    Reference: RSC 360a, Sear 10991

    Mint: Trier

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    Also, this double sestertius which I got for $110.

    1. A.D. 260

      Ӕ Double Sestertius, 31mm 24.3 grams

      Obverse: L IMP C M CASS LAT POSTVMUVS P F AVG; radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.

      Reverse: P M TR P COS II PP S C; Emperor helmeted in military attire stg. l.; holding globe and spear.

      Reference: RIC V Lugdunum 106

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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Dobbin, that is a particularly nice Victorinus due to the centering with full legends and good details. Welcome. I hope you will be sharing more excellent coins in the future.
     
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  19. Dobbin

    Dobbin Active Member

    Okay, so this one isn't a Gallic emperor, but it's roughly contemporary to my Victorinus. I like owning them both because they are so similar which to me it shows the infrastructure of the empire kept chugging along in both places no matter who claimed to be emperor.

    Claudius II (Gothicus)
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  20. Dobbin

    Dobbin Active Member

    I must also thank @Victor_Clark because I had no idea who these coins depicted without his help.
     
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  21. gsimonel

    gsimonel Supporter! Supporter

    Well, both empires had some pretty scruffy-looking coins at the time.
     
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