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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 3654271, member: 66"]What is the precision of the scale? How many test runs did you do? Where results consistent among other control specimens as compared to the subject coins? (Did you test other 1981 canadian cents and 1982 US cents to make sure you weren't running tests on an "odd" piece?) If you are trying for precise SG figure (more than one decimal place) are you isolating from drafts and compensating for temperature of the water? Where did you get composition specs for the Canadian cent? I know they are bronze but not the actual official composition percentage specs. Do you know that making up a melt it is very difficult to impossible to hit a planned bronze or brass composition to within a couple of percent since the tin or zinc in the alloy boils at a lower temperature than the copper melts. It isn't just a simple matter of adding the proper amount of each metal and melting them. Take too long to create the melt, or hold it molten too long and the whole time your zinc is boiling off. The actual composition of the melt is a moving target. If you can hit the target within 2% you're good.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is curious because with the Canadian coin being bronze and US coin being brass, and the copper percentage probably being in theory about the same I assume, the densities should be as well. You are getting a measured value for the US cent between 8.91 and 9.02. The spec SG is 8.83. The measure values are higher than the spec value but the high value is still about just 2% high, the lower just 1%.</p><p><br /></p><p>An XRF test would be illuminating. If the Canadian coin is actually bronze as it is supposed to be I would expect to see a reading for tin, possibly a significant reading. Tin was eliminated for the US cents in 1963 so any more than a hint of tin would be reason to question.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 3654271, member: 66"]What is the precision of the scale? How many test runs did you do? Where results consistent among other control specimens as compared to the subject coins? (Did you test other 1981 canadian cents and 1982 US cents to make sure you weren't running tests on an "odd" piece?) If you are trying for precise SG figure (more than one decimal place) are you isolating from drafts and compensating for temperature of the water? Where did you get composition specs for the Canadian cent? I know they are bronze but not the actual official composition percentage specs. Do you know that making up a melt it is very difficult to impossible to hit a planned bronze or brass composition to within a couple of percent since the tin or zinc in the alloy boils at a lower temperature than the copper melts. It isn't just a simple matter of adding the proper amount of each metal and melting them. Take too long to create the melt, or hold it molten too long and the whole time your zinc is boiling off. The actual composition of the melt is a moving target. If you can hit the target within 2% you're good. This is curious because with the Canadian coin being bronze and US coin being brass, and the copper percentage probably being in theory about the same I assume, the densities should be as well. You are getting a measured value for the US cent between 8.91 and 9.02. The spec SG is 8.83. The measure values are higher than the spec value but the high value is still about just 2% high, the lower just 1%. An XRF test would be illuminating. If the Canadian coin is actually bronze as it is supposed to be I would expect to see a reading for tin, possibly a significant reading. Tin was eliminated for the US cents in 1963 so any more than a hint of tin would be reason to question.[/QUOTE]
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