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<p>[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 4114442, member: 82322"]SPARQL is designed to merge data from different sources. <a href="https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/blog/semantic-university/learn-sparql/sparql-vs-sql/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/blog/semantic-university/learn-sparql/sparql-vs-sql/" rel="nofollow">https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/blog/semantic-university/learn-sparql/sparql-vs-sql/</a> . However, many SPARQL implementations use MySQL underneath. Regarding performance and hackery, Wikidata.org has a public endpoint so there must be some way to control throughput.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I did forget about Tantalus. I just did a password reset and will try it again. I picked two coins and random and although both had a "comment" link no comments were being accepted for either coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Zeno has a small section for Black Sea area coins you might know at <a href="https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1285" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1285" rel="nofollow">https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1285</a> but it isn't well organized. It is a Russian site and focuses on Asia. I brought it up because I like the hierarchical arrangement, comments open to logged in users on everything, and each category has its own text.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The ANS is a scholarly institution. The have one guy doing those sites. His blog is <a href="http://numishare.blogspot.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numishare.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://numishare.blogspot.com</a> . The ANS can get papers published in heritage publications discussing data formats. There isn't anywhere that publishes papers on really slick user interaction. They really are advancing the field for library science and querying heritage data. Eventually they will allow open queries and then people with your skills will be able to come in.</p><p><br /></p><p>The innovations I like to see are about linking data from different sites. 20 years ago I put the most famous book on Greek coins online, then worked with David Surber at Wildwinds to provide a deep link on every page.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe the rules of CoinTalk ban promoting our own sites, but I want to talk about my site <a href="http://isegrim.mybluemix.net" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://isegrim.mybluemix.net" rel="nofollow">http://isegrim.mybluemix.net</a> . There is an amazing German site with a query interface much more difficult than OCRE. You can find it at <a href="http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim/index_en.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim/index_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim/index_en.html</a> . It was started by Ottfried von Vacano in the 1980s. It was the first site with a "Semantic" interface. It only had what you call "God mode". Not only that, but humans entered coins using an ontology so you could search for "Apollo" but also for "Male" if you didn't recognize the figure on the coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I thought it was amazing but none of my collector friends could figure out the weird German query tags, the old-fashioned spelling of city names, or the Latinization of the Greek inscriptions.</p><p><br /></p><p>I spent a weekend doing a modern front-end for it. There are a lot of bugs in the front-end. The thing I am most proud of is nothing on the UI, but that you can share results by copying the URL out of the browser. (I realize Tantalus also has this, but it doesn't have advanced queries). I also mixed in a little linking with Google Books so if the result is in the British Museum Greek coin catalogs a direct link is provided.</p><p><br /></p><p>The ANS's underlying platform is good. It would be easy to write an RDF relationship explaining which gods are "male" and which are "female" and allow the ANS data to be queried. The ANS is trying, but they only have a few people thinking about what to do. Read the blog post about adding monograms for Alexander coins to PELLA. <a href="http://numishare.blogspot.com/2019/12/1200-hellenistic-monograms-posted-to.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numishare.blogspot.com/2019/12/1200-hellenistic-monograms-posted-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://numishare.blogspot.com/2019/12/1200-hellenistic-monograms-posted-to.html</a> It is going to be great. I have some ideas for improving that but don't know how to contribute.</p><p><br /></p><p>Have you used Pella? Again, my favorite thing about it is the stable URLs. If I want to study an Alexander coin, say for example Price #9, I can go to <a href="http://numismatics.org/pella/id/price.9" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/pella/id/price.9" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/pella/id/price.9</a> and see examples from the world's museums. Imagine how handy it would be if your engine, whenever it saw `Price (#)<n>` in the <b>References</b> field made it into a hyperlink? We would rarely need to pull down Martin Price's book from the top shelf.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 4114442, member: 82322"]SPARQL is designed to merge data from different sources. [URL]https://www.cambridgesemantics.com/blog/semantic-university/learn-sparql/sparql-vs-sql/[/URL] . However, many SPARQL implementations use MySQL underneath. Regarding performance and hackery, Wikidata.org has a public endpoint so there must be some way to control throughput. I did forget about Tantalus. I just did a password reset and will try it again. I picked two coins and random and although both had a "comment" link no comments were being accepted for either coin. Zeno has a small section for Black Sea area coins you might know at [URL]https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=1285[/URL] but it isn't well organized. It is a Russian site and focuses on Asia. I brought it up because I like the hierarchical arrangement, comments open to logged in users on everything, and each category has its own text. The ANS is a scholarly institution. The have one guy doing those sites. His blog is [URL]http://numishare.blogspot.com[/URL] . The ANS can get papers published in heritage publications discussing data formats. There isn't anywhere that publishes papers on really slick user interaction. They really are advancing the field for library science and querying heritage data. Eventually they will allow open queries and then people with your skills will be able to come in. The innovations I like to see are about linking data from different sites. 20 years ago I put the most famous book on Greek coins online, then worked with David Surber at Wildwinds to provide a deep link on every page. I believe the rules of CoinTalk ban promoting our own sites, but I want to talk about my site [URL]http://isegrim.mybluemix.net[/URL] . There is an amazing German site with a query interface much more difficult than OCRE. You can find it at [URL]http://isegrim.dasr.de/isegrim/index_en.html[/URL] . It was started by Ottfried von Vacano in the 1980s. It was the first site with a "Semantic" interface. It only had what you call "God mode". Not only that, but humans entered coins using an ontology so you could search for "Apollo" but also for "Male" if you didn't recognize the figure on the coin. I thought it was amazing but none of my collector friends could figure out the weird German query tags, the old-fashioned spelling of city names, or the Latinization of the Greek inscriptions. I spent a weekend doing a modern front-end for it. There are a lot of bugs in the front-end. The thing I am most proud of is nothing on the UI, but that you can share results by copying the URL out of the browser. (I realize Tantalus also has this, but it doesn't have advanced queries). I also mixed in a little linking with Google Books so if the result is in the British Museum Greek coin catalogs a direct link is provided. The ANS's underlying platform is good. It would be easy to write an RDF relationship explaining which gods are "male" and which are "female" and allow the ANS data to be queried. The ANS is trying, but they only have a few people thinking about what to do. Read the blog post about adding monograms for Alexander coins to PELLA. [URL]http://numishare.blogspot.com/2019/12/1200-hellenistic-monograms-posted-to.html[/URL] It is going to be great. I have some ideas for improving that but don't know how to contribute. Have you used Pella? Again, my favorite thing about it is the stable URLs. If I want to study an Alexander coin, say for example Price #9, I can go to [URL]http://numismatics.org/pella/id/price.9[/URL] and see examples from the world's museums. Imagine how handy it would be if your engine, whenever it saw `Price (#)<n>` in the [B]References[/B] field made it into a hyperlink? We would rarely need to pull down Martin Price's book from the top shelf.[/QUOTE]
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