Obvious Counterfeit

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ToughCOINS, Jun 20, 2024.

  1. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Here's another unmarked counterfeit . . . Reported to eBay. Howmuchyawannabet eBay ignores my report and lets it sell?
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  3. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

  4. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Well, they're Canadian... but yeah that date font looks nothing like the legit coin.
  5. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    WoW! I guess that's why they call it "FleaBay".
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    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    That's awful. I no longer waste my time reporting these. Fleecebay won't do anything unless someone with an inside connection reports it.
  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Looks like seller took it down.
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Got home and found the following in my eBay Message Center:

    Hello toughcoins,
    Thanks again for reporting the listing(s) you found.

    What happened:
    We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent.

    If you reported content that isn’t listed below, we’ll send a separate email once we’ve made a decision.

    Your reference ID:

    Here are the listings you reported that are included in this decision:

    Thank you for being part of the eBay community.

    Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email.
    This coin possesses the wrong reverse design for the date . . . A glaring, unmistakable giveaway . . . yet eBay concluded the coin was not a counterfeit.

    eBay is a danger to the buying community.

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I have gotten that response the past few times I've reported. First there is an email thanking me and giving me an incident number. I think the "customer service agent" is a robot.

    My opinion is that they are violating the US Hobby Protection Act: "It shall be a violation of the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder for a person to provide substantial assistance or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller of imitation numismatic items, or to any manufacturer or importer of imitation political items, if that person knows or should have known that the manufacturer, importer, or seller is engaged in any practice that violates the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder." They are facilitating the sale of counterfeits and they know it.
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  10. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Yeah. Unfortunately, I now expect that response every time I report a fake.

    I don't think they've forced a listing down once since they started with this automated handling of the reports . . . feels like a year ago now.
  11. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    The listing is down.


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  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Sure, a "service" to bad actors who buy the coins and then resell them as real. :mad:

    eBay's policy on this is crystal-clear. It prohibits the sale of replica coins, even if they're marked as "COPY". It's just not enforced in general.
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  14. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    People that knowingly sell fake coins as genuine are to me at the bottom of a editrf barrel.
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  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, they should be, anyhow.
    Last edited by a moderator: Jun 22, 2024
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  16. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    This. It's surprising how many people don't know that ebay policy prohibits even legally marked replica coins. And yet I've gotten the same "customer service" response when the seller states right in their listing that it's a replica. Ebay simply doesn't care as long as they're making money.
    Ended by the seller. If ebay deemed it a counterfeit, it would get the "orange hoodie" instead of showing the ended listing. Here's the seller images in case it goes away.
  17. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I didn't catch that until now. I think they used a post-1901 Barber dime reverse, which is funny.
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    What about the funky S mint
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  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I think they pulled it
  20. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Did I miss the point it is the wrong obverse as well? Stars versus legend obverse?
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  21. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    How right you are. It's a Frankencoin!
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