Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by CoinBlazer, Dec 9, 2019.
I hope to make this educational so feel free to explain a bit its obscurity and story behind it.
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Here's a quick blurb from FORVM:
"The short-lived mint at Amiens was opened during the revolt of Magnentius in 350 A.D. Some ancient sources state that Magnentius' father was a Briton and his mother a Frank and Ambianum is believe to have been Magnentius' birthplace. The mint at Ambianum struck for Magnentius and his brother Decentius. It remained open briefly after Magnentius was defeated, striking for Constantius II and Constantius Gallus. Dates of operation: 350 - 353 A.D. Mintmarks: AMB, AMBI."
Coins from this mint are fairly rare. Here's one from Constantius II minted after putting down the revolt of Magnentius:
Obv: DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right;
A behind bust
Rev: FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO, soldier standing left, spearing bare-headed horseman
who is reaching backwards.
RIC VIII Amiens 48
Constantine I ("the Great"), A.D. 307-337
Ostia mint, A.D. 312-313
Obv: IMP C CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
Rev: S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI - Legionary eagle between two vexilla; hand atop left, wreath atop right
MOSTT in exergue
21 x 16 mm, 4.6 g.
I've dabbled in...
Pre-Mauryan coins of the Karshapanas (India, 600-300 BC)
Post-Mauryan splinter states
Of course Indo Sassanian
Each and every one of these represents the opening to a rabbit hole that will go as deep as you will let it take you. Really, except for China's impressively uniform Wu Zhu, every major civilization (and plenty of the ones on the wayside) has a rich numismatic record to uncover.
Greek influenced kingdoms (Bukhara)
A more local flavor (Soghd)
The Kushans stabilized things from about 100-300 AD when the Huns arrived
From the 5th-8th centuries there were also a lot of native coppers made for small change
in a different script. The fire altar is of somewhat different design as well. Some coins are actually obscure not because of their rarity but because they are hiding in plain sight. By the way, the reason for the Persis piece being on the piece of wood is that the two bronzes are so thick that to keep the drachma in the same focal plane as the bronzes required that the drachma be raised.
There are so many cool "obscure" collecting areas. I will not post some of the above coins, (yeah I dabble in most of the above for the collecting diversity). However, I notice this Forum predominately posts Roman Empire (Augustus, onward) coins. I will have a little fun posting coins of different peoples of Italia (NON-Magna Graecia), BEFORE the Roman Empire.
Etruria: Obscure people, not originally from Italia, that founded and influenced Rome. They even had an Empire before the Romans were even a Republic.
Etruria Populonia AR 5 Asses 3rd C BCE 2.0g Young Hd L V behind HN 173 Vecchi Rasna III 52 ex NAC 29 No 9 RARE
Capua: When Hannibal came through Italia, he promised the Capuan Magistrates that Capua would become the capital should he destroy Rome. Obviously, the Roman Republic prevailed in the Second Punic War. Since Capua sided with Hannibal, all coins, and anything that Capua created to popularize Hannibal were destroyed, melted down, etc. Makes Capuan coins scarcer from this Era.
Campania CAPUA AE 14-5mm 216-211 Hera Oscan Grain ear Hannibal capital Italia SNG Fr 517 SNG ANS 219 HN Italy 500 EE Clain Stefanelli
Frentani: Samnite cousins who lived on the Adriatic Coast of Italia.
Larinum Frentani 210-175 BCE AE Quincunx 22mm 9.8g Mars or Athena corinthian helmet- Galloping Horseman spear sheild tbolt 5 pellets NH Italy 625 BMC 2 SCARCE
Etruria or Umbria Aes Grave 3rd C BCE Sextans 23mm 25.15g Club-2 Dots HN 54 Vecchi-Th 172
Samnium: Coarse mountain folks, living along the backbone of Italia. Rome and the Samnites fought 3 bloody and nasty wars.
Samnium Aesernia 263-240 BC AE 20 Vulcan Pilos Tongs Jupiter Biga Left
Bruttium: The Bretti were not originally Greeks of Magna Graecia. During the Second Punic War Hannibal "holed-up" in the Toe of Italia.
Bruttium Carthage occup 2nd Punic War AR Half-Shekel 216-211 Tanit Horse SOLAR-O HN Italy 2016 SNG Cop 361-3
Marsic Confederation: Some of these guys above got so fed up with the Romans NOT making them Citizens, they decided to get together and revolted Roman rule. This resulted in the Social War from 90-88 BCE, and eventually led to the virtual extinction of the Samnites...
Marsic Confederation denarius 90-88 BCE Italia-Corfinium Oath Ceremony over pig Sear 227 SCARCE
Ikshvakus lead elephant
Collecting coins like these is hard due to sparse information on some of the peopl who produced them.
Sri Lanka, excavated in Anuradhapura
Anonymous, 1st C. BCE
PB 1/8 Lakshmi
1.1g, 14.1mm x 7.8mm
OBV: Hindu Goddess Lakshmi facing. She is the goddess of wealth, fortune, and prosperity. She was a beauty and the wife of Vishnu
Comment: "Lakshmi (Sanskrit: लक्ष्मी, lakṣmī,ˈləkʂmiː) is the Hindu goddess of wealth, fortune and prosperity. She is the wife and shakti (energy) of Vishnu, a major god in Hinduism. Lakshmi is also an important deity in Jainism and found in Jain temples. Lakshmi was also a goddess of abundance and fortune for Buddhists, and was represented on the oldest surviving stupas and cave temples of Buddhism. In Buddhist sects of Tibet, Nepal and southeast Asia, goddess Vasudhara mirrors the characteristics and attributes of the Hindu goddess Lakshmi with minor iconographic differences." -Wikipedia.org
I just noticed something on my Seleucid reverse image. Depending on how you look at it, the eagle is either raised or incuse
: Aes formatum.
Cocoon-shaped AE cast Aes Formatum, Central Italy, 6th-4th centuries BC.
Unlisted in the standard references and apparently unpublished; Vecchi ICC- (cf."Bronze objects found with Aes Rude and early currency bars in Central Italy", p. 76 and pl. 90)
AE. g. 47.74 mm. 64.00
RRRR. Untouched earthen emerald-green patina.
AE Cast Ingot, decorated with rosette in incuse square.
Central Italy, 4th-3rd century BC.
AE. g. 52.72 mm. 0.55 RR. mm. 28x18x17.
For bronze objects found with aes rude and early bars, see ICC p.83 ff. and A. M. Murgan, “Heavy metal in hallowed contexts. Continuity and change in aes deposits in Central Italy and Sicily” in “Embodying Value? The Transformation of Objects in and from the Ancient World”, BAR International Series 2592, 2014.
INDIA, WESTERN KHSATRAPAS, Bhartdaman
Denomination: AR drachm, minted: uncertain mint; 278-295 AD
Obv: Head of Bhartdaman, legend around is missing
Rev: Rajno mahakshatrapasa rudrasenaputrasa rajnah kshatrapasa bhartrdamnah. ("[coin of] the sun of king and mahasatrap Rudrasena, king and satrap Bhatrdaman")
Weight: 2.25g; Ø:1.4mm
Catalogue: not found
Provenance: Ex private collection; acq.: 07-2017
Bhartrdāman was the second of two sons of Rudrasena II who came to the throne. He started to issue coins as kshatrapa in the year S. 200, which was the last year that his father was still in power. At the time, his brother Visvasena had been issuing coins as kshatrapa for a few years, and he continued to do so for two more years before claiming the title of mahakshatrapa in 201 or 202. Bhartrdāman issued coins as kshatrapa until 204, at which point he started issuing coins as mahakshatrapa. The mahakshatrapa series continued uninterrupted until S. 217 (= 295 CE).
I got another one, but have not yet ID'd it (any input of course appreciated!):
Or from the Hymarite kingdom - fun little coins which are concave:
HIMYARITE KINGDOM, Amdān Bayān Yahaqbiḍ
Denomination: AR drachm, minted: Raydan (?); 100-120 AD
Obv: Head right within dotted circle interrupted by monogram
Rev: Small head right; 'scepter' to right
Catalogue: (unsure): CAF 3.4ii, fig. 168.
Provenance: Ex v. Eldijk collection; acq.: 10-2019
That's Rudrasena II
Wow, that was fast Thanks! Is it possible to pinpoint the date, or the mint?
Well, we're in the same time zone, most Americans are still sleeping.
There is no date on your coin, but he ruled 255-276AD
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