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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Silver Striker, post: 114643, member: 1745&quot;]I just found this thread on e-Bay&#039;s Coin and Paper Money message forum.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><i>iipnd&nbsp; (416 ) View Listings&nbsp; | Report&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Feb-23-06 13:18 PST</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>A while back we had a discussion about the criminality of consistent overgrading. At that time I referred to an article in NUMISMATIC NEWS about a case where the judge stated that such activities could result in jail time. I was challenged by Numis to produce the pertinent information about that case and try as I may, including contacting David Ganz of NN, I was unable to do so.</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>Well, here it is thanks to another article by Mr Ganz in the Feb 28th issue of NN.</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>The case originated in a NY District Court before Judge ]Arthur D Spatt in 2001 and was appealed to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>Here is a quote from the article in NN.</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>&quot;...The appellate court quoted Spatt as saying that a reasonable jury could have found the essential elements of mail fraud based on the intentional, systematic overgrading, beyond a reasonable doubt and on that basis they affirmed the judgement of the District Court for substantially the reasons stated by the District Court in it&#039;s thorough decision&quot;</i></b></p><p><b><i><br /></i></b></p><p><b><i>I rest my case!</i></b></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is an interesting link I just found. </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/2nd/031141p.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/2nd/031141p.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/2nd/031141p.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>And here, I believe,&nbsp; is the affirmation to that case.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.k6az.com/forums/031141p.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.k6az.com/forums/031141p.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.k6az.com/forums/031141p.pdf</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I wonder if it&#039;s&nbsp; the same story.</p><p><br /></p><p>If this worked.&nbsp; I hope it won&#039;t be too long before SGS and others are taken to task.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW, Just browsing today and notice ABONCOM has approximately 250 active auctions on both Yahoo and Overstock.&nbsp; YECH![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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