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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Ed Zak, post: 18138, member: 824&quot;]NTC grades...</p><p><br /></p><p>MS(whatever grade) minus 2 to 4 points.</p><p><br /></p><p>AU(whatever grade) minus 3 to 5 points</p><p><br /></p><p>My experience with their early Lincolns (especially their version of &quot;Reds&quot;) seem to grade out at AU50 to AU58 condition?&nbsp; Never seen worn MS Reds before in Lincolns, but this company sure has a bunch.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a NTC Lincoln example I was referring to:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=39456&amp;item=3928457512&amp;rd=1" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=39456&amp;item=3928457512&amp;rd=1" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=39456&amp;item=3928457512&amp;rd=1</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Look at the flatness on the hair...this is more in AU 50 to 55 condition than MS64...or is it?</p><p><br /></p><p>But that&#039;s only my opinion[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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