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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3535124, member: 96900"]TypeCoin971793</p><p>"I said that one was fairly obvious. The style is just wrong"</p><p><br /></p><p>You have no idea what you are talking about.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a genuine and counterfeit 1818 B-10 quarter. This is a die-transfer counterfeit. By your definition, the style is the same. But to any marginally-experienced collector, the style is obviously wrong due to the mushy/fuzzy look and from being made with modern machinery. The same is said about the Marcus."</p><p><br /></p><p>Mushy/fuzzy look has no influence to the STYLE, it only makes the details softer not more and not less.</p><p><br /></p><p>If I polish or hashly clean a coin to achieve this mushy/fuzzy look, will the coin then be from different style = artist?</p><p>Lol, you made my day.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are showing me 2 coins from the same dies + style + artist.</p><p>The fakes will be in same style as the mother used to create the transfer dies or csat fakes or galvanos. If some details would have been recutted in casting mould or transfer dies which are different than the details which were in authentic dies, we have a NEW STYLE AND ARTIST for the RECUTTED details.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Identical style = same artist.</p><p><br /></p><p>Different style = different artist</p><p><br /></p><p>By writing wrong style you imply different artist.</p><p><br /></p><p>Style is the way artists create artworks in their own individual way with their own specific characteristics, that allows us to tell who the artist was.</p><p><br /></p><p>Different style is not the same as different fabric and problems (detail loss) related to cast and transfer die fakes.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3535124, member: 96900"]TypeCoin971793 "I said that one was fairly obvious. The style is just wrong" You have no idea what you are talking about. Here is a genuine and counterfeit 1818 B-10 quarter. This is a die-transfer counterfeit. By your definition, the style is the same. But to any marginally-experienced collector, the style is obviously wrong due to the mushy/fuzzy look and from being made with modern machinery. The same is said about the Marcus." Mushy/fuzzy look has no influence to the STYLE, it only makes the details softer not more and not less. If I polish or hashly clean a coin to achieve this mushy/fuzzy look, will the coin then be from different style = artist? Lol, you made my day. You are showing me 2 coins from the same dies + style + artist. The fakes will be in same style as the mother used to create the transfer dies or csat fakes or galvanos. If some details would have been recutted in casting mould or transfer dies which are different than the details which were in authentic dies, we have a NEW STYLE AND ARTIST for the RECUTTED details. Identical style = same artist. Different style = different artist By writing wrong style you imply different artist. Style is the way artists create artworks in their own individual way with their own specific characteristics, that allows us to tell who the artist was. Different style is not the same as different fabric and problems (detail loss) related to cast and transfer die fakes.[/QUOTE]
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