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<p>[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3534517, member: 96900"]Lanz is selling many thousand of coins per year, he has at the moment 232311 evaluations and the number of bad evaluations is extremely low !</p><p>The bad feedbacks on facebook are not representative. </p><p>If you sell so many coins mistakes can happen and his employees are doing mostly the ebay listings and so it can happen that a fake slips through from time to time but who doesn´t make mistakes we are all humans. </p><p><br /></p><p>"Dr. Hubert Lanz ist auch ein Vorreiter in Sachen moderne Technik und Münzhandel."</p><p><br /></p><p>at end of article </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://muenzenwoche.de/world-money-fair-award-fuer-hubert-lanz/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://muenzenwoche.de/world-money-fair-award-fuer-hubert-lanz/" rel="nofollow">https://muenzenwoche.de/world-money-fair-award-fuer-hubert-lanz/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Ebay homepage </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.ebaystores.de/NUMISMATIK-LANZ/Mich-Seite" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebaystores.de/NUMISMATIK-LANZ/Mich-Seite" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebaystores.de/NUMISMATIK-LANZ/Mich-Seite</a></p><p><br /></p><p>at the end </p><p><br /></p><p>"Herzlichst</p><p>Ihr </p><p>Dr. Hubert Lanz"</p><p><br /></p><p>He really has a doctor title and he is allowed to carry it. </p><p>To carry a tile you do not have is a criminal offence in Germany and will be punished with a fine or prison! </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What is wrong with the Mithridates III?</p><p><br /></p><p>From same reverse die are :</p><p><br /></p><p>the example sold in "Bank Leu AG & Münzen und Medaillen AG. KUNSTFREUND: Grechische Münzen Aus der Sammlung eines Kunstfeundes. Zurich, 28 Mai 1974"</p><p><br /></p><p>Specimen in Paris and London, of both are picture available online, too lazy to look for links.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To the Mithridates III, the upper part of the B (beta) of Basileos seems to be different than on other coins of the same dies. And on the British museum coin exactly the upper part of the B is missing and this part of the B which is missing on the BM coin looks different on the coin sold by Dr. Lanz. So some could argument and think that they used the BM specimen as host to make transfer dies and then they recutted the missing part of the B (beta) and recutted the obverse die a little bit. But the differnece of the B is imho most likely due to slippage and bad strike. the obverse die is only a new so far unpublished obverse die not more and not less so nothing special. </p><p>This issue has a serious problem with slippage, many of these show a die shift on the reverse especially on the letters !!!!</p><p>And then some could be worried because of the softness and detail loss on the reverse and that letters become thinner and damaged, which is a typical problem of transfer die fakes but it is only due to worn dies and dmaged dies and a bad strike and slippage. </p><p>There are actually known transfer die fakes of this dies (same reverse die) known by IAPN and published IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 18 page 6, they were forgeries of the Galvano Boys (British Museum forgers) and they are not really dangerous and I think that the coin of Dr Lanz could have been accidently confused to be one of these forgeries <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now seriously I do not like the coin but if I remember correctly an expert who I admire and who is familar with this issue thinks that the coin is ok and I do rely on his opinion.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is a book about this coins available for free</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-9-files/bss-9-04-callatay" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-9-files/bss-9-04-callatay" rel="nofollow">http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-9-files/bss-9-04-callatay</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And different version powerpoint here</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/9884669/The_first_royal_coinages_of_Pontus_from_Mithradates_III_to_Mithradates_V_Powerpoint_" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.academia.edu/9884669/The_first_royal_coinages_of_Pontus_from_Mithradates_III_to_Mithradates_V_Powerpoint_" rel="nofollow">https://www.academia.edu/9884669/The_first_royal_coinages_of_Pontus_from_Mithradates_III_to_Mithradates_V_Powerpoint_</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The First Royal Coinages of Pontos (from Mithridates III to Mithridates V) François de Callataÿ[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lolli, post: 3534517, member: 96900"]Lanz is selling many thousand of coins per year, he has at the moment 232311 evaluations and the number of bad evaluations is extremely low ! The bad feedbacks on facebook are not representative. If you sell so many coins mistakes can happen and his employees are doing mostly the ebay listings and so it can happen that a fake slips through from time to time but who doesn´t make mistakes we are all humans. "Dr. Hubert Lanz ist auch ein Vorreiter in Sachen moderne Technik und Münzhandel." at end of article [url]https://muenzenwoche.de/world-money-fair-award-fuer-hubert-lanz/[/url] Ebay homepage [url]http://www.ebaystores.de/NUMISMATIK-LANZ/Mich-Seite[/url] at the end "Herzlichst Ihr Dr. Hubert Lanz" He really has a doctor title and he is allowed to carry it. To carry a tile you do not have is a criminal offence in Germany and will be punished with a fine or prison! What is wrong with the Mithridates III? From same reverse die are : the example sold in "Bank Leu AG & Münzen und Medaillen AG. KUNSTFREUND: Grechische Münzen Aus der Sammlung eines Kunstfeundes. Zurich, 28 Mai 1974" Specimen in Paris and London, of both are picture available online, too lazy to look for links. To the Mithridates III, the upper part of the B (beta) of Basileos seems to be different than on other coins of the same dies. And on the British museum coin exactly the upper part of the B is missing and this part of the B which is missing on the BM coin looks different on the coin sold by Dr. Lanz. So some could argument and think that they used the BM specimen as host to make transfer dies and then they recutted the missing part of the B (beta) and recutted the obverse die a little bit. But the differnece of the B is imho most likely due to slippage and bad strike. the obverse die is only a new so far unpublished obverse die not more and not less so nothing special. This issue has a serious problem with slippage, many of these show a die shift on the reverse especially on the letters !!!! And then some could be worried because of the softness and detail loss on the reverse and that letters become thinner and damaged, which is a typical problem of transfer die fakes but it is only due to worn dies and dmaged dies and a bad strike and slippage. There are actually known transfer die fakes of this dies (same reverse die) known by IAPN and published IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 18 page 6, they were forgeries of the Galvano Boys (British Museum forgers) and they are not really dangerous and I think that the coin of Dr Lanz could have been accidently confused to be one of these forgeries :( Now seriously I do not like the coin but if I remember correctly an expert who I admire and who is familar with this issue thinks that the coin is ok and I do rely on his opinion. There is a book about this coins available for free [url]http://www.pontos.dk/publications/books/bss-9-files/bss-9-04-callatay[/url] And different version powerpoint here [url]https://www.academia.edu/9884669/The_first_royal_coinages_of_Pontus_from_Mithradates_III_to_Mithradates_V_Powerpoint_[/url] The First Royal Coinages of Pontos (from Mithridates III to Mithridates V) François de Callataÿ[/QUOTE]
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