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Message:: [QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 3534419, member: 79368"]"such as David Sear, rather than having your coin "authenticated" by an anonymous service (NGC) that is not, per se, an authentication service or expert, and only provides authentication as an adjunct to its slabbing and grading service." What a load of crap. The $30,000 fake Lanz sold was authenticated by Sear who later recanted after he found out I condemned it. The IAPN also agreed with my assessment, which is why Lanz quit the IAPN so he couldn't be forced to give a refund. This year alone we've had at least a dozen coins come through with Sear Certificates that have been forgeries. 95% of our time at NGC is spent authenticating coins, the grading aspect is a minor part of our time. And we aren't anonymous. My name is Barry Murphy. I post here regularly and elsewhere and don't hide behind a anonymous username. I have and always will post under my full name. Nothing anonymous about me. The other person here at NGC who works on authentication is David Vagi, who you have all heard of. That's it' there's no one else, no anonymous authenticators anywhere else in the company. Several years ago I was approached by members of the IAPN to head up their forgery committee, and David and I were both approached again last year to join the committee. The odds of buying a forgery in an NGC holder is significantly less that it is buying from any dealer, bar none. Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]