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<p>[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3233557, member: 77814"]You're thinking the wrong way. But it seems you have the concept right in a way.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you withdraw at 59-1/2 or 70-1/2 from an IRA you *are* taking an IRA withdraw (whether RMD or more). It just so happens that it's in coins not cash. Based on the basis cost you'll pay tax (or not) at the time of withdrawal ... and put on your taxes.</p><p><br /></p><p>you will then have a handful of coins. You'll then *could* convert those coins to cash, which is after-the-fact of taking the 401k distribution.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, at that point it's beyond reach of the gov't .. to answer your question.</p><p><br /></p><p>Any transactions at pawn shops, coin shops, etc over $10k are reported but for other reasons.</p><p><br /></p><p>The IRA company tracks the IRA basis to determine the taxation for eventual IRA withdrawals. If basis is not taken into account, tax-free withdrawals can become taxable, meaning the funds will be taxed twice.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I think one of your questions is now that you have the coins and already paid your taxes on it. If you go to sell $15k at someplace (and valuation hasn't changed), do you file it on your taxes?? probably better safe than sorry as you'll have the basis and sale price to report.</p><p><br /></p><p>Consult a very knowledgeable tax/retirement accountant. They'll know more .. I'm not a tax accountant but I read a book once, but it wasn't about retirement Precious Metals tax accounting. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3233557, member: 77814"]You're thinking the wrong way. But it seems you have the concept right in a way. If you withdraw at 59-1/2 or 70-1/2 from an IRA you *are* taking an IRA withdraw (whether RMD or more). It just so happens that it's in coins not cash. Based on the basis cost you'll pay tax (or not) at the time of withdrawal ... and put on your taxes. you will then have a handful of coins. You'll then *could* convert those coins to cash, which is after-the-fact of taking the 401k distribution. Yes, at that point it's beyond reach of the gov't .. to answer your question. Any transactions at pawn shops, coin shops, etc over $10k are reported but for other reasons. The IRA company tracks the IRA basis to determine the taxation for eventual IRA withdrawals. If basis is not taken into account, tax-free withdrawals can become taxable, meaning the funds will be taxed twice. So I think one of your questions is now that you have the coins and already paid your taxes on it. If you go to sell $15k at someplace (and valuation hasn't changed), do you file it on your taxes?? probably better safe than sorry as you'll have the basis and sale price to report. Consult a very knowledgeable tax/retirement accountant. They'll know more .. I'm not a tax accountant but I read a book once, but it wasn't about retirement Precious Metals tax accounting. :)[/QUOTE]
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