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Message:: [QUOTE="Burton Strauss III, post: 2151259, member: 59677"]Yes, you see this clearly at coin shows - if you are at a show, you are self-selected to be at least a little more savvy, even if you are just starting out. So almost everything slabbed is PCGS or NGC. A smattering of dealers will have a few carefully selected ANACS, ICG, older PCI slabs or even 1 or 2 SEGS slabs - and they will openly and honestly discuss the coin and grade... They bought the coin, not the holder and they know it. I've even seen the odd GEC or NTC.  Heck, the really good dealers will openly and honestly discuss the PCGS and NCG coins too. I had one dealer who had cracked out an ICG AU50 because "I couldn't sell it with a straight face". I bought it - fair show price - as a nice, raw, XF and indeed it came back from NGC as XF40. But you never see the "not even sonically sealed" dreck like SGS except maybe in a 50% clearance bin. Well except for one <redacted/> in the NTX circuit who proudly displays NNC coins as if they are the treasure from King Tut's tomb (and wonders why most people don't even STOP at his booth).[/QUOTE]