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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;harley bissell, post: 3148205, member: 88212&quot;]I don&#039;t like slabs. Never have never will. I don&#039;t trust TPGs. Never have never will.</p><p>Most all fakes start off as pristine MS-65 or better. Smart crooks weather them to avoid discovery. Foolish crooks keep them in mint state. If there are 1500 coins made in the original strike and there are more than that certified you have a problem with quality control at the TPG. If you have a quarter million made like the 1909-s-vdb and more than 2500 mint state examples remaining it is also dubious.</p><p>Even coins dug from the ground can sometimes be fake so buyer beware. TANSTAAFL. There Ain&#039;t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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