Now waiting for the post Diadumenian sestertius

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  1. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    I have a new coin,
    now waiting for the post
    How rare is it:facepalm:

    DIADUMENIAN – SESTERTIUS – ROME – PRINC – RARE – Fine!
    Diadumenian. As Caesar, AD 217-218. Æ Sestertius (19,03g). Rome mint. 2nd emission of Macrinus, AD 217-218. Bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust right / Diadumenian standing right, holding signum and scepter; two signa to right. RIC IV 211 var. (type of signa); Szaivert 9-10; Banti 4.Fine R2
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  3. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Found it is R2
     
  4. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    Cool coin. I would just check the coin when it arrives. I hope that crack does not run due to stress of the mail. I have had a couple of coins with smaller cracks come broken due to getting stressed in the mail.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice looking Sestertius even with the crack. Like Med-man said, however, careful with the coin. I also have had a couple to arrive broken and one which broke when I dropped it on carpet.

    I have a denarius which could be a companion. It's in really rough shape though:
    Diadumenian 2.jpg
    DIADUMENIAN
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: M OPEL ANT DIADVMENIAN CAES, draped & cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: PRINC IVVENTVTIS, Diadumenian standing right, holding standard & baton, two more standards to right
    Struck at Rome, 218 AD
    1.4g, 18mm
    RIC 102
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    That's a very sweet coin, ro (congrats) ... it's a nice big fatty @ 19 grams!! (yummy)

    I only have one Diadumenian example ...


    Diadumenian, AE19
    Antioch, Syria
    217-218 AD
    Diameter: 19.4 mm
    Weight: 3.2 grams
    Obv: KAI O DIA ANTWNINOS, bare-headed, draped and cuirassed
    bust right
    Rev: Large SC within wreath, star over delta-epsilon above,
    eagle below :pigeon:

    diada.jpg diadb.jpg

    :rolleyes:
     
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  7. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Thanks all, i gona ask the vendor about the cracks
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    This one has cracks to, and is stil not broken hehe:facepalm:
     
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  8. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Waiting for the anwser thanks:happy:
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes:

    that's a cool coin, ro => I love the gold & brown patina (sweet eye appeal)

    Yah, although I realize that cracks are imperfections and that they reduce the overall value, man, sometimes they add to the coin's overall fabric and make them look even more sweet!!

    Hey, that's actually a pretty cool thread-idea, my friend

    => coins with cracks!!

    Yah, I can just see Bing & Doug smiling and wanting to post their Julia Domna crack-reverses!!

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

    ;)
     
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  10. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    O yeah i like you can see iff a coin is old, not fabric
     
  11. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    [​IMG]
    Not perfect, i like the color!!!!
    Orange hehe
     
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  12. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    I doubt the vendor can tell you much. He does not know if the package will be bent in exactly the wrong spot during shipment. Maybe just ask him for extra packaging materials to try to prevent it. The best thing I would say would be to have it shipped in a box, not a letter. Letters get bent for some reason, boxes do not.
     
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  13. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Good Idea:facepalm:

     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    A person with a background in physics might understand better than I the conditions that produced some of these things.
    rs4230bb1239.jpg rx0650bb0185.jpg
     
  15. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    I was just browsing the dealer's inventory this morning and noticed that one. Does it also look a bit tooled or is just honest wear, especially around the bust and over Dia's head?
    I was a step away from buying it myself for that price but the uncertainty about it being tooled or not got the best of me :)
     
  16. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    @Dougsmit, I believe the correlation of cracks with missing metal on the flan is pretty straightforward. When the coin is struck, there is a radiate force on the metal from the centerpoint of the strike outward. We all see the flow lines. However, if there is a gap in the metal, these forces are allowed to spread open the flan instead of radiate outward evenly. This spread puts pressure on the metal in a straight line towards the center of the force.

    Short of PMD, missing metal on the edge of the flan is the main cause of cracks I ever see. If a coin has a partial crack without a visible gap in the metal, in my experience with a glass you will be able to see the metal flaw in most cases.
     
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  17. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    Is the head tooled, did you say from mine coin
     
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  18. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    I hate tooling
     
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  19. medoraman

    medoraman Well-Known Member

    I believe he is referring to the pic where it appears there is a trough outlining the head on top. It could just be the lighting, but you would know better with the coin in hand.
     
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  20. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Thanks:facepalm: i though it was a damage
     
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  21. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    It is low in weight 19.03 is that normal
     
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