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<p>[QUOTE="chrisild, post: 1279979, member: 39"]These two are, in my opinion, "mildly antisemitic" - what I mean is, they do use stereotypes, but the two notes are less aggressive or offensive than the private issues depicted in the first couple of posts here. I just noticed that both of your notes are described (but not depicted) in the Bildindex database:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>See here: <a href="http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430055.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430055.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430055.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The text (in Low German) roughly means: <i>We do not have a "best room" (ie. WC), that is why the little one does it out of the window. Unfortunately at that moment, a member of the city council came by and got hit - which is why I got the Kaak (Low German word, some kind of pillory, C.) punishment.</i> Seems that actually happened in Brakel in 1655 ...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>See here: <a href="http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430049.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430049.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430049.html</a></p><p>(scroll down to "Im Herbste kam ein Handelsmann")</p><p><br /></p><p>This is standard German, and says: <i>In the fall, a salesman came and offered his merchandise. He had some pots with him, of every shape, also night potties. The woman says, that is way too big for that purpose - but the salesman ("David"!, C.) replies, it is the right size, after all, the nights are getting longer.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Not a word by word translation but you get the idea. In the first case, the scene would have an amusing effect even without the father being Jewish. And the second one, well, that traveling salesman could have been a gypsy (still a stereotype) or, at least in theory, some other man for the scene to "work".</p><p><br /></p><p>But yes, as the issuers depicted people with recognizable Jewish attributes, these notes can be considered to be antisemitic. Bildindex does that too, by the way - if you click on "Ikonographie (Iconclass)", an info box will open with keywords such as racial hatred, antisemitism, and Ashkenazim ...</p><p><br /></p><p>Christian[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="chrisild, post: 1279979, member: 39"]These two are, in my opinion, "mildly antisemitic" - what I mean is, they do use stereotypes, but the two notes are less aggressive or offensive than the private issues depicted in the first couple of posts here. I just noticed that both of your notes are described (but not depicted) in the Bildindex database: See here: [url]http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430055.html[/url] The text (in Low German) roughly means: [i]We do not have a "best room" (ie. WC), that is why the little one does it out of the window. Unfortunately at that moment, a member of the city council came by and got hit - which is why I got the Kaak (Low German word, some kind of pillory, C.) punishment.[/i] Seems that actually happened in Brakel in 1655 ... See here: [url]http://www.bildindex.de/obj20430049.html[/url] (scroll down to "Im Herbste kam ein Handelsmann") This is standard German, and says: [i]In the fall, a salesman came and offered his merchandise. He had some pots with him, of every shape, also night potties. The woman says, that is way too big for that purpose - but the salesman ("David"!, C.) replies, it is the right size, after all, the nights are getting longer.[/i] Not a word by word translation but you get the idea. In the first case, the scene would have an amusing effect even without the father being Jewish. And the second one, well, that traveling salesman could have been a gypsy (still a stereotype) or, at least in theory, some other man for the scene to "work". But yes, as the issuers depicted people with recognizable Jewish attributes, these notes can be considered to be antisemitic. Bildindex does that too, by the way - if you click on "Ikonographie (Iconclass)", an info box will open with keywords such as racial hatred, antisemitism, and Ashkenazim ... Christian[/QUOTE]
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