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<p>[QUOTE="900fine, post: 397762, member: 6036"]Not surprising, considering that the vast majority of coin buying is done by men. In fact, any other dealer behavior would be very surprising.</p><p> </p><p>Outside of numismatics, there are many occasions in which it is very difficult for a man to get a word in edge-wise e.g. being with my wife when shopping for a house. The agents, mostly women, always talk mostly to my wife. I don't complain about being treated like a head of cabbage. I assert myself. It gets straightened out.</p><p> </p><p>Similarly, when eating out, they consistently hand me the check, because they are used to the man paying for the woman. The only discrimination there is that, <b>society-wide</b>, the burden of financially providing for the family rests disproportionately on men as a whole.</p><p> </p><p><b>These things are normal and natural.</b> No reasonable person really believes that men and women are "the same". In any given endeavour, the "under representation" of one gender or the other is explained by our differences far more than by discrimination.</p><p> </p><p>No one complains that men are "under represented" in quilting circles, because we acknowledge the obvious : men and women, when viewed as groups, are so radically different that reasonable people expect some things to be mostly women. It is unreasonable to expect for nothing to be "male dominated". It's also a double standard.</p><p> </p><p>Similarly, no one expects women to do their fair share of back breaking work, such as pouring concrete, building roads or houses. When work is dangerous or destructive to the body, society says "It's a guy thing". There are some women who do this sort of work, but reasonable people concede it is very, very few. Exceptions don't prove the rule.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="900fine, post: 397762, member: 6036"]Not surprising, considering that the vast majority of coin buying is done by men. In fact, any other dealer behavior would be very surprising. Outside of numismatics, there are many occasions in which it is very difficult for a man to get a word in edge-wise e.g. being with my wife when shopping for a house. The agents, mostly women, always talk mostly to my wife. I don't complain about being treated like a head of cabbage. I assert myself. It gets straightened out. Similarly, when eating out, they consistently hand me the check, because they are used to the man paying for the woman. The only discrimination there is that, [B]society-wide[/B], the burden of financially providing for the family rests disproportionately on men as a whole. [B]These things are normal and natural.[/B] No reasonable person really believes that men and women are "the same". In any given endeavour, the "under representation" of one gender or the other is explained by our differences far more than by discrimination. No one complains that men are "under represented" in quilting circles, because we acknowledge the obvious : men and women, when viewed as groups, are so radically different that reasonable people expect some things to be mostly women. It is unreasonable to expect for nothing to be "male dominated". It's also a double standard. Similarly, no one expects women to do their fair share of back breaking work, such as pouring concrete, building roads or houses. When work is dangerous or destructive to the body, society says "It's a guy thing". There are some women who do this sort of work, but reasonable people concede it is very, very few. Exceptions don't prove the rule.[/QUOTE]
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