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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4897136, member: 112"]That's the kind of stuff that rewrites the books, so for me anyway it was always a pleasure to run across one. I imagine it is for you too <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> But here's the thing about unlisted coins, they're only unlisted until they aren't anymore. And once somebody finds one, and "list" it someplace like this forum - wellllll, they start popping up out of the woodwork <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>I think it was in 2003 while I was browsing the various upcoming auctions for ducats that I ran across this one that nobody knew what it was, it was catalogued as being unlisted, anywhere. Nobody had ever seen one before. Rather obviously however somebody had seen them - the previous owners, whoever they were.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1181765[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It was however recognized by the auction company, and obviously by me, as being a match for the scarce but known gold ducat just like it. So I bid on it and won. And once I did I posted it here.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I don't recall how long it was exactly without digging into my records, but it wasn't that long, maybe a year, that I ran across another one in another auction. Bid on and won that one too.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1181769[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1181770[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And then not long after that one of my friends and students, he ran across another, it's posted somewhere in these pages too.</p><p><br /></p><p>Over the years I heard or read about another one popping up here and there. Like this one that was slabbed, and had been assigned a KM number by then.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1181768[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And while to the best of my knowledge I don't know if anyone has ever found definitive proof of it in mint records, it is generally assumed that these coins were either test strikes or patterns for the gold ducat of the same date and mint. I don't know how many are known to exist today but I'm thinking it's still less than 10. </p><p><br /></p><p>But that's how the unlisted becomes listed, and it's always fun to play a part in that <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4897136, member: 112"]That's the kind of stuff that rewrites the books, so for me anyway it was always a pleasure to run across one. I imagine it is for you too :) But here's the thing about unlisted coins, they're only unlisted until they aren't anymore. And once somebody finds one, and "list" it someplace like this forum - wellllll, they start popping up out of the woodwork ;) I think it was in 2003 while I was browsing the various upcoming auctions for ducats that I ran across this one that nobody knew what it was, it was catalogued as being unlisted, anywhere. Nobody had ever seen one before. Rather obviously however somebody had seen them - the previous owners, whoever they were. [ATTACH=full]1181765[/ATTACH] It was however recognized by the auction company, and obviously by me, as being a match for the scarce but known gold ducat just like it. So I bid on it and won. And once I did I posted it here. Now I don't recall how long it was exactly without digging into my records, but it wasn't that long, maybe a year, that I ran across another one in another auction. Bid on and won that one too. [ATTACH=full]1181769[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1181770[/ATTACH] And then not long after that one of my friends and students, he ran across another, it's posted somewhere in these pages too. Over the years I heard or read about another one popping up here and there. Like this one that was slabbed, and had been assigned a KM number by then. [ATTACH=full]1181768[/ATTACH] And while to the best of my knowledge I don't know if anyone has ever found definitive proof of it in mint records, it is generally assumed that these coins were either test strikes or patterns for the gold ducat of the same date and mint. I don't know how many are known to exist today but I'm thinking it's still less than 10. But that's how the unlisted becomes listed, and it's always fun to play a part in that ;)[/QUOTE]
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