Not Another 'Gold Coin'....

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mikey Zee, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I confess, I caught a bit of 'gold fever' recently, but my operating budget required that I go after a more modest example than what we've been viewing lately on CT. (Yes, it's all your fault @panzerman :D)

    Please correct me if I am in error, but generally speaking, the El Hekte was 1/6 of a gold stater and approximately 24 drachma were also the silver equivalent of a gold stater.

    This El Hekte appealed to me due to its antiquity, place of origin, devices and relatively low cost. So please post any coin you may have of similar age, geographical area or comparable devices.....and, of course, any electrum examples you may have.

    Perhaps the significance of the 'female' head can be better explained by one of the gang?? All I seem to find is probable references to fertility or some other unclarified mystical attributes---- Later examples seem to consistently depict Artemis among others.

    El Hekte, Lesbos Mytilene, circa 412-378 BC; 11 mm, 2.48 grams
    Laureate head of Apollo right.
    Female head within linear incuse square
    Bodenstedt 70; SNG von Aulock, BMC 103
    Electrum El Hekte Lesbos Mytilene.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Now this is the kind of gold coin I might could afford. And it's a wonderful example IMHO.
     
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  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Appealing and nicely centered EL piece, Mikey.
     
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  5. Definitely more affordable than most think.
    El Hekte Winged Lion Sphinx 60 percent.png
    412-378 BC, El Hekte, Bodenstedt-63. Forepart of winged lion left / Sphinx seated right, in linear square.
    2.57g
    11.3mm
    El Hekte Athena Hermes 60 percent.png
    377-326 BC, El Hekte, Bodenstedt-86. Head of Athena facing, wearing triple-crested Attic helmet /Draped bust of Hermes right, his petasos hanging behind his neck, in linear square.
    2.50g
    11.9mm
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I absolutely LOVE them @iamtiberius !!! Just gorgeous.... with terrific strikes and details!! Not to mention they were struck circa 400 BC or so and were nearly the first of their kind.

    Late last year I tried for a similar example of the lion/sphinx El Hekte, although at a lower grade, unfortunately it went beyond my available budget at the time. But there's always next month..... and all of the rest of the year:)
     
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  7. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Nuthin' like a nice worn el coin eh M-Zee? :cool:
     
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  8. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I used to buy gold coins back when gold was $400-$440 an ounce.
    sold a lot when it was $500-700 and platinum was $770ish. Wish I had those back now. had some platinum eagles too.

    Now the price of gold has me hesitant all the time, though I'll still buy some from time to time.

    Interesting El Hektes.
     
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  9. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

    Beautiful piece. Electrum coins are some of the most beautiful I seen. And they are all natural as in not separated between the gold and silver contents
     
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  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what a sweet little gold coin MZ, cool devices indeed....i'd love to get on of these as they are not to far out of my price range.
     
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  11. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Oh yea, I blame him as well!

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  12. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    Yeahhh I am also looking for gold now...vielen dank Panzermann....

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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    LESBOS, Mytilene. EL Hekte – Sixth Stater
    Circa 478-455 BC
    Diameter: 10 mm
    Weight: 2.48 grams
    Obverse: Ram’s head right
    Reverse: Incuse bull’s head right
    Reference: Bodenstedt Em. 27; HGC 6, 954

    Lesbos Mytilene.jpg
    lesbos side a.jpg

    $450 (all-in) ... ummm, is that expensive? (maybe?)

    => I love this coin ... and I've already paid for it (cha-ching!!)
     
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  14. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW!! That appears to be one super chunky dude!!:wideyed:

    I don't know about expensive (maybe) but it seems about normal for retail as I understand it....Tell us more about it Steve...PLEASE PLEASE;)
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    How little gold has to be in a 'gold' coin before you don't call them gold? There is a lot of difference in alloy in electrum. I have no early electrum but there are Byzantines that are at least a little yellow in what many of us might call a price range we might accept.
    rz0525bb3150.jpg

    Of course you can get down in the gutter with me and go fourree. Gold over copper:
    rz0470bb0432.jpg

    Gold over silver:
    rz0455bb1174.jpg
     
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  16. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Are those gold washed/plated on a metal substrate?
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    seriously?

    ... are you trying to win the geek award of the night?

    :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Hey! I can see Steve in the REFLECTION! Coin-Glowing-Man! Above the peanut on the edge of his coin (3rd pic)
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    ... now I feel badly

    :woot:

    I like you
     
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  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Sorry, been in plastics molding, metal bashing, stamping, casting and wood working manufacturing industries for 35 years... We deal with the crap that YOU dig out of the ground! :D
     
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, if you can't grow it, then mine it! ....

    Ummm, or do some weird plasticy thing to it (ecchh) ...

    => "hey kids, stay away from that Alegandalf crap!! ... oh, and go wash your hands!!"

    :rolleyes:

    ... just jokes ...

    It's always funny laughing at other people (oh, wait a minute ... that's not right)

    Stupid-stupid-stupid ... I always get that wrong!!
     
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