Not another fallen horseman

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Eng, May 29, 2015.

  1. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    My club purchase from last Wednesday night.
    This coin has it all size, color, details..

    Constantius ll 337-361 AD.
    As, Augustus.
    Ae,
    Obv. Bust right, holding globe.
    Rev. Soldier rushing left, shield on left arm and spearing fallen horseman.
    23mm x 5.54g.
    Mint T S A and star..Thessionica
    Lots of Silvering.great details..
    New Ancients 5 27 15 009_opt.jpg
    New Ancients 5 27 15 010_opt.jpg
     
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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh wow, what an awesome LRB....coin club WIN!
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    One of the best FH coins I've seen. I would have bought it too.
     
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  5. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Nice score at the club Eng. Its got great detail on it.
     
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  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    An absolute gem. Congrats.
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Very nice! It looks to me like the horseman is still on the horse, making it Type 4. I only have Type 3 coins. I have to go look this up now - I'm wondering if any of the smaller AE3 types have bust-with-globe obverses, or if they're only found on the AE2's.
     
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  8. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    That is a cracking coin. I have bought a few just recently, there is good detail on the fallen horseman's armor. I will try and get rid of some of the green stuff before I post.
     
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Terrific coin---the centering and details are wonderful!! A dead horseman still straddling his dead horse----Fantastic!
     
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow Eng => that's a super sweet FH-addition (yummy, yummy)

    ... I only have one example (and here it is, again!!)


    :woot:

    Fallen Horseman.jpg
     
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  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow, nice details on that reverse, Eng!
     
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  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Man, there's so much to like about that coin. Super score, Eng!
     
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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey, West Coast => I didn't notice on first-glance that the dude was holding a globe in his paws!! (its cool-factor just increased ten-fold!!)

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
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  14. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Thank you Folks, when i saw this coin i new i had to have it, i bought 4 ancients, he had a Alex Tet with this much detail, still had sand on it, i'll have to make two payments on it. maybe next month..:)
     
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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I think that's so cool too....and comparing it to Steve's terrific coin, the arm holding the globe appears disproportionate to the rest of the portrait---almost like inclusion was an afterthought or was added sometime much later...or it it just me???
     
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  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It was just the style. You see a lot of those T-Rex arms on LRB's, holding various objects. If you're happy and you know it, clap your...oh, uh...never mind.
     
  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Give me fifty push-ups! Uh, ok...make it sit-ups.
     
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  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It is a great coin certainly much nicer than mine!
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    To me, this is an FH4 because the rider is not touching the ground and the horse still has its head tucked under rather than stretched out to the left (which would make it an FH1). Below is an FH1 for comparison. Notice the hand on the ground.
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    The problem is there are coins where the horse is tucked under but the rider has made ground contact. I still consider my Constans below an FH4 but there are some who might upgrade it to FH1. Remember these FH separations are completely arbitrary and made by coin students in the last 200 years. The die cutters did not know they would someday be expected to follow set patterns. Is the difference artificial? You bet!
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    The distinction is easier for most FH4 coins when the horse is still higher up and the rider is clearly aboard.
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  19. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful examples Doug!!!.... The last is incredibly vivid!!!
     
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  20. doucet

    doucet Well-Known Member

    Yet another FH, ae2.....is it FH1 or FH4? ............or in between? natural color.JPG
     
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  21. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I say FH4 - the rider is still well above the ground.
     
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