Non-believers.

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by JayAg47, Jan 2, 2021.

  1. usmc 6123

    usmc 6123 Active Member

    Kids don't write anymore. I put eleven hundred on a chex instead of one thousand one hundred and the bank teller had to get a manager to cash it.
     
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  3. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    My warped humor aside, I have in the past shown some of my coins to others on a limited basis, only friends I know very well.

    Recently I've tried to get two young people, a son and daughter, interested in ancients. I even gave the daughter a stater of Corinth as a graduation gift when she moved on from elementary school to middle school. Neither of them are really interested, though. Minecraft has a much higher priority in the overall scheme of things for them, and that's understandable, especially in this time of pandemic and isolation. Perhaps when they're older and more mature I'll have better luck.

    A few nights ago I showed the family, at dinner, my Pupienus sestertius. They couldn't get past the name, especially the kids, who were cracking up. The mother was scandalized. Oh well, I guess Pupienus might not have been the best choice as a lesson in ancient history at the time.
     
  4. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    Yeah, @ambr0zie, most of what most people are capable of is reducible to monetary value ...with which to buy, What? Leaving it right there.
     
  5. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Nice Italian states coins have always been difficult to locate. I've only had limited luck in that area for decades. If the coin is nice, it will usually bring a pretty high price at auction or through private sales.
     
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  6. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    That's a really nice Green River fish fossil, absolutely fantastic.

    The meteorite is also very nice. Campo del Cielo?
     
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  7. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    I generally agree regarding museums and coin exhibits. The one exception that I know of (I'm sure there are others), is the British Museum. They maintain a really nice permanent exhibit, in addition to special exhibitions that the put on from time to time. They used to have special exhibits in conjunction with Coinex, but that was back in the 1980s - 90s.
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    When traveling back to KY for a family visit a few years back, I was carrying an Alexander Tetradrachm and an Athena Owl in my pocket. When I had to empty out my pockets for the TSA, one of the workers on the other side of the conveyor belt was checking them out and I was telling her about them and she was so interested she called over some of her coworkers...they could not have cared less!!!
     
  9. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I’d have worried them confiscating the coins!
     
  10. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    As someone who also collects fossils, I can say that the issue of forgery and undisclosed restoration is at least as important in fossil collecting as in ancient coins. (Also, the question of laws about digging up and exporting specimens comes up too.) There are some fossils that are sold with no repair or restoration beyond removing excess sediment, some that have had minor repairs, some with major compositing (putting together fragments of two or more damaged specimens to make one nicer-looking piece), and some outright fakes. It's better if such repairs are noted by the seller, though many people who sell fossils commercially are not the same people who excavated them, so they may not always know about repair or restoration on a given specimen. There's a good online site, similar to CoinTalk, called The Fossil Forum that I like to read (and occasionally comment in):
    http://www.thefossilforum.com
    The "Is It Real?" subforum is a good place to post photos of suspect specimens and get opinions whether a given specimen has undisclosed repair/restoration/etc. Note that, per Fossil Forum rules, offering estimates of monetary value is forbidden. (Imagine if we tried that on CoinTalk!)
    On @physics-fan3.14 's Green River fish specimen, it looks like the larger fish has had some darker sealant added to protect the thin fossil material from flaking off. This is common on fossil fish from that site and is generally acceptable. It also looks like the fine detail in the tail and anal fins might (I'm not sure) have been painted on rather than being original to the fossil. Whether this would be acceptable varies depending on the collector, but I would probably not mind too much, as the fossil does seem to be overall real. It may be worth posting this over there to get more opinions (there are some amazing folks there, including professional paleontologists, who know far more than I do).
     
  11. DiomedesofArgos

    DiomedesofArgos Well-Known Member

    The reaction I get is not usually believing they are fake but rather amazement that I have such coins. Here's some texts after I sent someone a pic of my Alexios I hyperpyron a few days ago.

    [29.12.20 10:29]
    Wow it's an antique

    [29.12.20 10:29]
    How can you buy these things?

    [29.12.20 10:29]
    Shouldn't the coin be in the museum?



    This reaction is pretty typical. A couple of times I have been asked if coins are real, but no one's every shown disbelief once I confirm they are.



    I generally have short conversations about coins with people (5-10 minutes), but it hasn't yet lead to someone wanting to collect. They're interested in the coins to the extent that they are interested in me and want to know about me and what I like. The same way I might talk about cars or sports or clothes or jewelry or any number of things I personally have very little interest in. I'll enjoy the conversation if I like the person because I want to know about them and also give them an opportunity to share something that makes them happy. But I'll probably never be up for a deep dive or technical discussion in hobbies that I don't gravitate to on my own.
     
  12. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    You could explain the reason why ancient coins are not rare as they think to them . because in ancient time people doesn’t have bank to storge them money , so they usually berry it in underground as the way to protect them money , some time they maybe forget the location they berry or because of war , the berrer was killed or something ,so no body to retrieve those coins , that why it still remain until now.

    or because some religion reason , for example in Ancient Greek , people do put silver coin on eyes of dead people , it was kind of “tip” to Charon who respond for carrying souls to the world of deaths , and even some ancient culture still remain this tradition through many century after.

    We also can find many Ancient Rome period coins nowadays , one of the many reasons of ancient Roman berry huge coins is because , they want to thanks or pray to their gods/goddess .

    There’s is other way to prove those coin are ancient , you could show them the coins which has been identified by
    Prestigious authentic company , such as NGC , PCGS ....., I think those options could persuade them.

    Hope you persuade them successfully.
     
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  13. Henry112345

    Henry112345 Member

    Hi,

    I found I make pretty much mistake on last thread.

    “the berrer was killed or something ,so no body to retrieve those coins”

    The” berrer”should be buyer.


    Charon who “respond”

    should be “Be responsible for carrier souls ...



    I’m sorry for that , I was in a hurry at the time I typed.
     
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  14. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Sikhote-Alin. It's the only one I have so far, but I've been looking at more.
     
  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Your heart is in the right place though :)
     
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