No... it's not a Mint Error, nor valuable, 99.999999% of the time

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Beefer518, Mar 24, 2018.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Actually, you can call what someone post, stupid. That's not against the rules. You just can't call the person stupid.
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Books, the students are allowed to use their smart devices in the lab and during lecture, but not in testing or evaluation situations. Phones, smart watches, smart rings, etc. all go into bins before. Apps on the internet can show information that flat books are unable. They do not have to be told where to go to get information, and it is not to youtube or yahoo news. They know how to search for documentation when needed. If there was a time machine, I would put the average one today against the average of any of the decades before, and expect to see equal or better. To "ancient ones" like us, we always like to see ourselves as the "greatest generation", "where everyone is above average"! Jim
     
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  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Where is THIS??? What level?? Our public schools around here don't allow them at all in class. And they're not funded well enough to issue tech to anybody. (After the second highest average teacher salaries in the nation are subtracted from the pile.)
     
  5. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    But actually looking for information in the tens of thousands of posts, and hundreds of thousands of pages of printed reference material that exists is too hard for them, it's so much easier to ask questions and expect instant answers. :facepalm::banghead:
     
  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    And hardly surprisingly, a moderator here thinks there's nothing at all amiss with that idea and that paradigm. Hmm. I'll bet the owner is way okay with it too.
     
  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Kurt and AT, just a straight answer. Have you used the search function to find something in the last year? More times than you have just asked a question to the forum? thanks , Jim
     
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  8. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I wish kids today could go back to when I was a kid. If my parents didn't know the answer to my question, I had to ride my bike to the library and hope the answer was in a book there. If not, then I would have to hope to someday run into an expert.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Actually, no, I find the search function largely unusable. Too much chaff, not enough wheat. I have at my fingertips, after cutting it down my more than half when I moved, still about 35 linear feet of numismatic "dead tree" books to consult. And SINCE I moved (Oct. '17), I've added a fresh new linear foot of them. I've spent more on books than coins in the last six months.

    I use CoinTalk as my personal "Museum of Numismatic Ignorance" for the most part. And I don't have to "search" for that. It splashes onto my screen spontaneously.
     
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  10. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    And you have been on here much longer than a newcomer who has zip idea of how to use it. Why not learn and write a thread about How to use SEARCH rather than asking first? Then all could point at that thread. Show me and the Owner your better way . Jim
     
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  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    But my "better way" involves grabbing a book off my shelf. And I'm sorry, but I think more people need to adopt THAT way.

    By the way, adding a linear foot of books is easy. I pre-ordered Mega-Red #4, and that's 3 inches (25%) right there.
     
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  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    You have mentioned your library. Probably 100s of volumes and a nice price like mine, and I congratulate you on yours. I use mine to help answer any question I find interesting as I know many are not on the net, and many are not available in most libraries these days. There is nothing wrong with your method, it is congratulatory, but out of reach for most coming to ask about a dime with a missing clad layer, etc. Best to you, jim
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    True, and effective "search" presumes one knows a useful "search term", which is something I don't really expect of newbs. Vocabulary is an early barrier. That said, even a glance at MOST "Recent Topics" lists reveals two primary types of posts - stuff on Ancients, in which I am a newb's newb, and really rough beginner stuff on damaged coins.

    What bemuses me, (not amuses) is how few beginner posts we see that are,"Hey, look at this virtually perfect coin I found!", which was my Holy Grail in the hobby for my first 10 or so years.
     
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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Yeah, but ..
    but, but this is just a Blog.
    I need to talk to real experts as there are none here; it's just a blog.

    After all, I *found* this penny in my change. I know it's rare because, well, it is and I'm NOT wrong as the internet says I'm not .. you are.

    So where do I go to get certified ?
    :)
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    YouTube creates this kind of thinking by virtue of its very design. Let's review the bidding:

    YouTube - crummy reputation for coin videos
    Facebook - growing crummy reputation for, well, NOT exclusively working for the left

    Who's next?

    By the way - Facebook and YouTube have something ELSE in common - neither have EVER been on my devices. Same for any and ALL games.
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Jim, I have a new "goal" for my numismatic library - I'm trying to assemble volumes not often seen here in the states, concentrating on European volumes. While I am NOT tremendously fluent in other languages, numismatic terms are easy to learn. And for U.K., Spink is pretty slick stuff.
     
  17. CoinCorgi

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  18. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Yes
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    We KNOW standardized test scores are falling, Jim, that is DOCUMENTED by the College Board. SAT, GRE, LSAT scores peaked about the mid-1970's to early 1980's. Now, is that dispositive? No. But it does argue against your hypothesis. And remember, back in the 1970's there were no "SAT prep classes" that everybody went to.

    Classroom "grade inflation" is presently rampant and endemic, because we simply must keep students' self esteem "on 11".

    The college I attended for undergrad had the second LOWEST average GPA in the entire NATION in the mid-70's. It was about 2.2. A classical education, with classical grading standards. Dean's List was 3.0. B's were something to crow about.
     
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  20. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Hey Corg, even better - ask ANY recent student to explain the nature of the "null hypothesis" and what it means in science and statistics. One thing I know for certain - NO ONE in the news media understands it.
     
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  21. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    You can amass volumes upon volumes of reading material and still not possess comprehension.
     
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