No bull, I could use some help identifying this coin (OK, maybe a little bull)

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  1. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    Yesterday being father's day and my birthday I figured I would treat myself, one of my favorite things to do is IDing, and got down to a group lot of 11 ancient Greek coins (a pretty cool provincial Vespasian Tyche/Galley slipped in:0. So really 10 Greek and one Provi).
    I am down to 2 coins. 1st is a Ptolemaic bronze with a left facing eagle and zilcho on the obverese=dead end.
    The 2nd though is this fun little, bronze, 16 mm (no scale for weight, sorry), half bull that should be quite easy... But it hasn't been. The face on the obverese is porous but the bull looks pretty good. The fun has run out. I've gone over acsearch, wild winds and cng with a fine toothed comb. Which is why I am here.
    Any IDea who, where or when this coin is from?

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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

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  4. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    well happy birth/father day Ryro..(>< 'have you seen me?")
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I struck out on AsiaMinorCoins (searched every bull on the site) but had a look through Historia Nvmorvm, conveniently digitized and online thanks to @Ed Snible.

    This is somewhat similar... Cnidus in Caria (scroll down the page):


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    The book image obverse sure looks like Zeus rather than Apollo but it's hard to say. On your coin I can make out a hint of some letters to the left of the bull, as in the coin shown above. Not sure about the size. Yours may be significantly larger.

    Edited to add: belated Happy Birthday! :)
     
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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    A better example from ACsearch/Agora:

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    Caria, Knidos. 2nd-1st centuries B.C. AE 19 (18.7 mm, 4.83 g, 11 h). Head of Apollo right / ΠANTAΛEΩN KNIΔIΩN, forepart of bull left. SNG Keckman 217 var (rev legend); BMC 80 var (same); SNG Kayhan -. aVF. Scarce.

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2948297
    https://agoraauctions.com/listing/viewdetail/26944/0/archive

    The bull's head on your coin looks skinnier but maybe that gouge/crack/corrosion is making it look that way. The size is more or less right.
     
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  7. Ryro

    Ryro You'll never be lovelier than you are now... Supporter

    @TIF, THANKS!!! I have no idea how you got so good at ancient identification...oh wait, yes I do...
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    LOL, I had never seen Pilot perform this song. Just always remembered it playing during football practice... what is HILARIOUS is the background “la-la-la’s” were sung by the guys in the band! I always imagined it being sung by female background singers. Brings back some fond, albeit, brutal football practice memories. Too funny. 1974.

    Sorry, I cannot give you any more bull on your bull. Looks like @TIF was full of bull..... um, good research... :)

    Here’s some bull from me: hey, look, I got this “bull” from @TIF a few years ago! But not as far back as when Pilot spit out that bubble-gum!

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    Sicily Syracuse Hieron II 275-269 BC AE 22 Persephone Bull LEFT
    Ex: @TIF
     
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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    good song! ^^
     
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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    I think I had that single (45 rpm vinyl). Junior high school days :).
     
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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    LOL, it was always the Jr Hi girls who were always hip to all the new songs! Memorized all the lyrics...
     
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