No $20 Redesign in 2020 Now...

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by furryfrog02, May 22, 2019.

  1. techwriter

    techwriter Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Numbers, I was looking for the same data; Yep "some" just can't seem to accept truth and facts. Oh well.
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  3. techwriter

    techwriter Well-Known Member

    Now, back to the point: I'm completely amenable to currency modifications; why don't we sort of "look back" to some of our early large size currency? And women on the currency; okay
  4. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    Well, that’s your opinion, so why not keep it to yourself.
    Guess what else he did? Paid off the natl. debt. in 1835, which is more than can be said of our former presidents who have only added to it.

    Oh, also, he was a war HERO in the War of 1812.
    His military leadership will forever be remembered in history books.

    Considering he was an orphan, and his determination led him to became a lawyer, and then rise up to the presidency is astonishing.

    It’s ironic how some people slander him, yet they don’t have half of the courage and leadership Andrew Jackson was so well known for.

    Yes, he also happens to be known for some negative things, but, as with every leader, there are two sides to the medal. Every character, whether in 1830s history or contemporary history can be controversial.

    Therefore, it is inappropriate to only slander former president Jackson.
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  5. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    “Not going to say anything besides providing the link.”
  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I said something....not saying anything else though. :p
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  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    You are talking to a disabled combat veteran son. What have you done for the country that makes YOUR opinion regarding what constitute "courage" more informative than mine? My great great great grandmother lost half her siblings on the Trail of Tears, so it is a little more than "some things happened". It was intentional genocide against my ancestors.
  8. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    "The Indian Removal Act was signed into law by President Andrew Jackson on May 28, 1830, authorizing the president to grant unsettled lands west of the Mississippi in exchange for Indian lands within existing state borders." (Library of Congress)

    Settlers would inevitably bring harm to the natives, so, the government attempted to relocate them. Some tribes vacated land peacefully, others resisted.

    Again- [especially] with a historical character, there are varying opinions.
    If you want to continue insulting former president Jackson, then go ahead- stay ignorant. At least now I know who was napping in history class!

    Also, you believe that leading a small army against 7500/8000 British troops (during the War of 1812) doesn't constitute courage?

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  9. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Supporter

    According to history, Andrew Jackson was indeed a War hero, being the only US President to fight in both the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812.
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  10. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Supporter

    Well, now you’re just letting facts get in the way of a good ol’ mud slingin.;)
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  11. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    In my opinion, currency modifications should be made SOLELY to prevent counterfeiting. Any other redesigns are just PC pandering.
  12. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    I do have the instinctive feeling from experience that this thread is gone from 'paper money' angle and nose diving into political discussion which will not work on this site. It has been passable, but all one needs is a newbie jumping in without reading the rules and using words, slogan , and other stimulant combinations , and causes normally well centered members to lash out thinking, they said it to me so I have a right to respond likewise.....NO! you do not have. That is why some members are gone, do not let it be you.

    I do think all that needed to be posted was early in the thread, Jim
  13. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Supporter

    His Army was unusual in that it was made up of mostly volunteers and freed African Americans. I found this information on
  14. gamebird98

    gamebird98 Active Member


    bring back designs like this.
  15. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Numismatic Hoarder

    Not to mention the only US President to be a prisoner of war.
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  16. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Supporter

    Interesting and very relevant!
  17. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    If you really believe this should be the only reason the design of US paper money should be changed then you should have no objection to removing Jackson because he was not part of the original 1862 design.
  18. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    You might not be aware of this, but, our currency has had the same historical figures on all our denominations of paper money since 1928.
    Andrew Jackson was glorified on currency because he was a significant character in our nation’s history. (He founded the Democratic Party!)
    Before he arrived on the $20, he was on the $10 (Series 1914 and 1923)
    But, with today’s PC society, people are only concerned with how to put a woman on the $20, disregarding the vital role many American statesmen played in the early years of this nation.
    President Jackson is not on our money because it’s the “socially righteous” thing to do, but, because he is part of our nation’s history- a history that is sadly being erased more and more.
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  19. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector Supporter

    Would it be possible to stop those political rants? :rolleyes: Thank you.
  20. RD302

    RD302 New Member

    I find nothing wrong with the way this thread is going. I've learned things about Jackson I never knew reading it. I see both sides of the argument. We can all make up our own minds as to which side of the fence we're on.
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I don't follow at all. The Dollar -- the world's reserve currency, the unit of account for nearly all business transacted in the world's largest economy -- is represented by numbers in electronic memory cells. Even for common citizens, cash is getting less relevant every day.

    If the dollar meets its demise, I don't think it'll be because of changes in currency design. Unless, of course, we resume making large-denomination bills that are easy to counterfeit. :rolleyes:

    (Or if we ban electronic exchange and make everybody do business with high-denomination coins -- and make those coins out of copper-plated zinc. That would do it.)
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