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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4889912, member: 110504"]Oh, [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], so that's where those improbabably late Italian ones came from. And the convergence of chronology and more precise geography makes the progression from the ones in the Frankish Levant that much more intuitive. Regarding those, I was thinking initially in terms of a more direct route from France, more via trade than the more circuitous route, with the layers of intervening polities and coinages. For instance, the Roman 'Senatorial' denaros that imitate the Champagne 'peigne' deniers, as attributable to the Champagne fairs (especially in Provins) as anything else.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4889912, member: 110504"]Oh, [USER=56653]@seth77[/USER], so that's where those improbabably late Italian ones came from. And the convergence of chronology and more precise geography makes the progression from the ones in the Frankish Levant that much more intuitive. Regarding those, I was thinking initially in terms of a more direct route from France, more via trade than the more circuitous route, with the layers of intervening polities and coinages. For instance, the Roman 'Senatorial' denaros that imitate the Champagne 'peigne' deniers, as attributable to the Champagne fairs (especially in Provins) as anything else.[/QUOTE]
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