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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 4886927, member: 56653"]If you have access to Lunardi most of your id is already there. As I thought these are also in Tzamalis (at least one variation) F203 p.256.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1179276[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the history of the tournois in Greece, it arrived after the Fourth Crusade in the form of royal tournois of Philippe II and Louis IX and afterwards the lighter tournois provencal of Charles d'Anjou and the tournois from Toulouse and the Marquisat of Alphonse de France. After the royal order that rejected the use of feudal tournois in the royal demesne and the copying of the royal coinage in 1263 and even more so after Viterbo in 1267, these coins were relegated to the Outremer in large quantities. The denomination is picked up by Guillaume II de Villehardouin and becomes the coinage of the Principality of Achaea around 1270 and in time it replaces the French tournois. Around 1285 the denomination is also minted at Thebes for the de la Roche Lords and Dukes of Athens. By the 1290s it's a common fixture in Greece, with mints of large output -- Glarentza, Corinth, Thebes, Athens(?), Lepanto -- and smaller "prestige" mints as Salona, Neopatras, etc. By the 1300 the Greek tournois is common fixture in the Angevin Southern Italy and in the 1380s at least one mint, Sulmona, issues tournois (tornesi) for the Angevins of Naples. The currency still goes back and forth between Southern Italy and Greece, so much so that the tornesi of Nicola di Monforte of 1461-1464 are sometimes found in Greece.</p><p><br /></p><p>This would be a very short, condensed and syntetic view of the tournois in Greece. Tzamalis goes in depth for some mints and issues, the early types up to Isabella de Villehardouin in Achaea and Guy II de la Roche in Athens. Lunardi is probably the most comprehensive source for the Genoese interests in all of the Levantine area, up to even Crimea and the Danube Delta. For Chios specifically there's also a piece I found interesting on the Zaccaria rule, under Palaiologan overlordship: A. Mazarakis - Some thoughts on the Chios Mint during the time of the Zaccaria Family rule 1304-1329.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 4886927, member: 56653"]If you have access to Lunardi most of your id is already there. As I thought these are also in Tzamalis (at least one variation) F203 p.256. [ATTACH=full]1179276[/ATTACH] As for the history of the tournois in Greece, it arrived after the Fourth Crusade in the form of royal tournois of Philippe II and Louis IX and afterwards the lighter tournois provencal of Charles d'Anjou and the tournois from Toulouse and the Marquisat of Alphonse de France. After the royal order that rejected the use of feudal tournois in the royal demesne and the copying of the royal coinage in 1263 and even more so after Viterbo in 1267, these coins were relegated to the Outremer in large quantities. The denomination is picked up by Guillaume II de Villehardouin and becomes the coinage of the Principality of Achaea around 1270 and in time it replaces the French tournois. Around 1285 the denomination is also minted at Thebes for the de la Roche Lords and Dukes of Athens. By the 1290s it's a common fixture in Greece, with mints of large output -- Glarentza, Corinth, Thebes, Athens(?), Lepanto -- and smaller "prestige" mints as Salona, Neopatras, etc. By the 1300 the Greek tournois is common fixture in the Angevin Southern Italy and in the 1380s at least one mint, Sulmona, issues tournois (tornesi) for the Angevins of Naples. The currency still goes back and forth between Southern Italy and Greece, so much so that the tornesi of Nicola di Monforte of 1461-1464 are sometimes found in Greece. This would be a very short, condensed and syntetic view of the tournois in Greece. Tzamalis goes in depth for some mints and issues, the early types up to Isabella de Villehardouin in Achaea and Guy II de la Roche in Athens. Lunardi is probably the most comprehensive source for the Genoese interests in all of the Levantine area, up to even Crimea and the Danube Delta. For Chios specifically there's also a piece I found interesting on the Zaccaria rule, under Palaiologan overlordship: A. Mazarakis - Some thoughts on the Chios Mint during the time of the Zaccaria Family rule 1304-1329.[/QUOTE]
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