Nice Owl

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by tibor, May 17, 2022.

  1. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    Saw this piece coming up for auction at Heritage on the 18th. Rarely
    see a near full crest on the helmet and well centered owl.

    Owl full helmet crest.jpg Owl.jpg
    At this point in time top bid is $1300 w/one day left.
     
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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    This is one of the few Ancients on my "dream" list.. for now my DC owl has to do but that coin is spectacular.. If your bidding I hope you get it. Thanks for sharing
     
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  4. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Despite the good centering & full crest, the obverse shows serious die wear. The grade AU*, Strike 5/5, Surface 4/5 suggests that someone will over-pay for the coin. It might hammer for 3k.
     
  5. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    @mrweaseluv I am not bidding on this piece. I do think it is nice.
     
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  6. The Meat man

    The Meat man Well-Known Member

    Spectacular!
     
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  7. asheland

    asheland The Silver Lion

    That's an awesome example!
     
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  8. ArtDeco

    ArtDeco Well-Known Member

    Excellent strike and centering on the coin. Some of the best I've seen. I don't think this is the original type though, this might be a bit later than the originals because the owl looks different.
     
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  9. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    FYI it's generally considered a faux-pas on the Ancients forum to post coins currently up for auction.
     
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  10. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    @Severus Alexander Why is that? I just used the current coin to
    illustrate it's condition. Very rarely have I seen a coin of this type with
    nearly full crest and well centered owl presented here on this forum or
    any other. Is it in any of the rules that this is frowned upon? I just
    thought that the members would enjoy seeing a prime example. The
    post received 10 "Likes", some from very knowledgeable members.
    No complaints from them.
     
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  11. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    As beautiful as that owl is, plus the hammer price which will be stratospheric, I think I'll stick with my owl with a good portion of the crest present. Die wear and circulation are obvious, but at least it is not encased in plastic.

    D-Camera Athens tetradrachm near full crest, EF 17.18g Roma 55 lot 168 after 449 BC 4-27-21.jpg

    Another one, a later standardized owl and much cruder.

    D-Camera Athens tetradrachm, near full crest,  Roma E-Sale 73,  8-16-20.jpg

    And then there's this odd ball, with a small obverse die.

    D-Camera Athens tetradrachm after 449 BC reduced obv. die, 17.14 g , 12-14-20.jpg
     
  12. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    As I understand it, the reasons are twofold:
    1) If a member is watching the coin, they won't be very happy to see it advertised.
    2) It's open to abuse if consignors can "just happen" to post a coin for sale without revealing that it's their coin. That could destroy the board if it happened a lot, so there needs to be a norm against it.

    Especially with only one day left, it's easy to wait until after the sale to post.

    No, it doesn't break any forum rules, it's just a convention here in the Ancients' section. I didn't mean to complain, just to make you aware of the convention in a friendly way. Probably should have added an emoji. :shame:
     
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  13. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    The Owl ended selling for $2,760.00 including buyers fee.

    HA 63103 image, $2,760.00, May 18, 2022.jpg
     
  14. tibor

    tibor Supporter! Supporter

    From what I've seen the past few years I think this is a good value. Not very well versed on these, but from what I've seen at shows, it did well.
     
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  15. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    I think if NGC includes a "Full Crest" designation, the hammer price could go higher.
     
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  16. pprp

    pprp Well-Known Member

    The coin quite obviously does NOT have a full crest as the lower part is off the flan and also part of border is trimmed along the flan. But it seems bidders do not look at the coin but at what the slab says :wideyed:
     
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  17. Rich Buck

    Rich Buck Yukon Cornelius

     
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  19. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Lovely coin.

    The discussion of a full crest reminds me of the lady who was trying to sell her "full crested" Owl for $1 million.

    It wasn't quite a full crest, and it too had die wear.
     
  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Any time I see owl. I click on
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    How did you doo
     
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