Nice new Julian II

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  1. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I just picked this up in @John Anthony 's auction number 104. I have wanted a large Julian for a long time so I am fortunate to have picked one up for a low price. On vcoins some of these are going for $1200, but appear to me to have been tooled. This is indeed a fine coin of the Apostate. I read Gore Vidal's Julian some time ago and thoroughly enjoyed the book, so it comes highly recommended.

    AE 30, 8.1 grams, Nicomedia mint, A.D. 361-363
    Obverse: DN FL CL IVLIANVS PF AVG
    Diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: SECVRITAS REIPVB
    Bull standing right, two stars above//palm
    Mintmark: SMNB
    Reference: RIC VIII 119, page 483 (SMNA, no SMNB examples recorded

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    Feel free to post your Julian's here!
     
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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice score ACH !
    I saw it at JA's auction, "unfortunately" I already have one :)
    You did very well, at a very fair price, and your picture shows the details better (no offense intended JA)

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    Julian II, AE 1 Double Maiorina struck in Antioch, 3 rd officina
    D N FL CL IVLI ANVS P F AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Julianus right
    SECURITAS REIPUB, Bull to right, two stars above. ANT gamma between two branches at exergue
    8.73 gr
    Ref : Cohen #38, RC #4072, LRBC #2641

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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    These are popular coins because of their size for one thing - they're the largest bronzes of the late 4th century. When they were issued, the Romans themselves hadn't seen such large bronzes in several generations - since the time of the tetrarchical coinage. The bull also makes them very popular - it's an allusion to traditional Roman religion. Julian was called "The Apostate" because of his insistence that Romans disavow Christianity and return to their ancestral gods.

    I've seen a few tooled examples myself, because the dies for these types were typically very shallow intaglios, and only a little circulation wear would blur the features. The trick is to find coins that are "minimally processed," ie., lightly cleaned and not "improved!"
     
  5. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Great OP coin. I love that type. Here is my more common Julian II bronze

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  6. Jovian363

    Jovian363 Well-Known Member

    My best large Julian is from Sirmium
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice example.

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    JULIAN II, The Apostate (355 - 363 A.D.)
    Æ3
    O: D N CL IVLIANVS NOB CAES, Bare head, draped and cuirassed right.
    R: FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier to l., shield on l. arm, spearing falling horseman; shield on ground r. Horseman turns head to soldier and extends l. arm. M in l. field, BSIRM star in exergue.
    Sirmium Mint, 355-61 A.D.
    19mm
    2.24g
    RIC 78
     
  8. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Everbody's gotta have one of these!

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  9. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Hello, here is mine Julian.JPG
     
  10. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I think you have helped me closer to attributing a coin I have partially cleaned. I couldn't figure out the legend on the obverse and noticed there was no head gear and with fallen horseman on the reverse. Oh! I'm excited that it might be a Julian since I don't have one yet. Thank you for posting this.
     
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  11. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I love a good Julian thread! I have no new additions except the two that I always show...

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    ulian II, AD 355-363
    Æ28, 7.4g, 6h; Arles mint, AD 360-363
    Obv.: DN FL CL IVLIANVS PF AVG; Diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: SECVRITAS REIPVB; Bull standing right, two stars above, eagle to right, standing right on wreath, holding another wreath in its beak
    In Ex.: SCONST

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    Julian II, AD 360-363
    AE3, 21mm, 2.6g, 12h; Heraclea mint: 361-363
    Obv.: D N FL CL IVLIANVS P F AVG; helmeted, cuirassed bust left holding spear and shield.
    Rev.: VOT / X / MVLT / XX - Legend within wreath // HERACLA
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    No problem, post the coin hear and maybe others can help.
     
  13. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    JULIAN II (too):

    RI Julian II 360-363 CE Fallen Horseman AE3.jpg
    Julian II, AD 361-363
    AE3, 17mm, 2.7g, 6h; Thessalonica mint, AD 361.
    Obv.: DN CL IVLIANVS NOB CAES; Draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: FEL TEMP REPARATIO; Helmeted soldier to left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield on ground right. Horseman turns to face soldier and extends left arm (F3), M in left field // SMTS epsilon.
    Reference: RIC VIII Thessalonica 210, Scarce, p. 421.
    Ex: @John Anthony the Great...
     
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  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    RIC lists only one example of the Fallen Horseman coins which were struck in Antioch under Julianus II . That's RIC VIII- ANT-189 with mint mark as
    ANEI. The following coin was also struck in Antioch but it has ANTSE in exergue.
    Moreover the letter L of Julianus on obverse was written in Greek ( lambda ) instead of the Latin letter L. I don't know either what's there on left field of reverse. The coin weighs 2.05 g. I'll post a digital photo after a close shot at day light tomorrow. Here are 3 scans now. Julian 2  R  FH.jpg Julian2 ANT  Off SE.jpg Jul L 600 001.jpg
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice OP coin. These are nice looking coins.
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  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    A solid example of the type ACH!


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    Julian II 355-360 AD


    O: DN IVLIANV-S NOB CAES, R: Fallen horseman, AN (gamma) in ex, Antioch mint. (Antioch 189), 16 mm, 2.9 g
     
  17. jb_depew

    jb_depew Well-Known Member

    Here is my Julian II. You'll have to pardon the junky cell phone photos.
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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  21. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Loving the eye candy on this thread!
     
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