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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 5467178, member: 19463"]This explains why it is quite possible for a coin in VF to be better than one in Mint State. There used to be a term I rarely see anymore: Fleur de coin. This meant not only Mint State but perfect in every way to include centering and surfaces. We also see 'as struck' which usually carries an overtone of 'not very good'. Hand struck coins do not have the consistent repeatability of machine made coins so many coins left the mint in less than desirable condition. We used to downgrade coin for problems other than wear but NGC decided to grade coins based only on wear and rely on their 1 to 5 out of 5 ratings to show other problems. I consider this Caracalla to be a better than average type from a very common emperor and in EF condition based on wear but with a few 'issues' that would reduce the bid levels on a coin. I believe it will be worth $160 <i>someday</i> if not <i>today</i>. I would be happy to have the coin but not at the price. That explains why you have the coin and I don't. Whenever you buy a coin you are saying that it was worth more to you than it was to the guy who sold it (or he would have sold it to someone else for more). My closest is below. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1238104[/ATTACH] </p><p>It is just VF (VF+ if you are being kind) and lacks the second figure. RIC rates both as 'S' but the Reka Devnia hoard had 61 of mine and 19 of yours making yours 3x as scarce. I paid $58 for mine and, considering all things, I don't see yours as all that badly overpriced. I hope you will enjoy the coin for many years to come.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 5467178, member: 19463"]This explains why it is quite possible for a coin in VF to be better than one in Mint State. There used to be a term I rarely see anymore: Fleur de coin. This meant not only Mint State but perfect in every way to include centering and surfaces. We also see 'as struck' which usually carries an overtone of 'not very good'. Hand struck coins do not have the consistent repeatability of machine made coins so many coins left the mint in less than desirable condition. We used to downgrade coin for problems other than wear but NGC decided to grade coins based only on wear and rely on their 1 to 5 out of 5 ratings to show other problems. I consider this Caracalla to be a better than average type from a very common emperor and in EF condition based on wear but with a few 'issues' that would reduce the bid levels on a coin. I believe it will be worth $160 [I]someday[/I] if not [I]today[/I]. I would be happy to have the coin but not at the price. That explains why you have the coin and I don't. Whenever you buy a coin you are saying that it was worth more to you than it was to the guy who sold it (or he would have sold it to someone else for more). My closest is below. [ATTACH=full]1238104[/ATTACH] It is just VF (VF+ if you are being kind) and lacks the second figure. RIC rates both as 'S' but the Reka Devnia hoard had 61 of mine and 19 of yours making yours 3x as scarce. I paid $58 for mine and, considering all things, I don't see yours as all that badly overpriced. I hope you will enjoy the coin for many years to come.[/QUOTE]
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