Nice cherrypick from the bay :D

No offense to you, but I just assumed that it was purchased for that price. I feel that whoever paid that price got a fair deal. In all honesty, I searched the eBay sold listings to get a better view of the coin, to try and see the obverse clashing and reverse pitting needed to be a "Rusty Fishhook" VAM 4b. I also noticed that about 60% of the folks who replied in your thread had already done what I did in regards to searching eBay under sold listings.

So, maybe you copied the wrong eBay listing pictures and I did the wrong research. In that case, it could explain why the coin is not a 1904o VAM 4b in my opinion based on the pictures that you initially provided to us. I respect you and even helped a little in noticing the die cracks on the cool Morgan Dollar you picked up in the parking lot of a closed coin shop a while back. Before another respected member here pointed you in the correct direction for determining which VAM you had gotten the great deal on.

You then sent it off to ANACS for grading and variety attribution. I followed your excitement and enjoyed seeing you get such a Nice coin the way you did. I have learned Tons here and a couple other public coin forums over the last year, so I only wish the Best for you and everyone else here in learning and getting the best info possible, just as I wish for myself. So I hope it works out well for you and thanks for sharing on the board.

Since I mentioned it, Thank You to All who contribute here and elsewhere in the free numismatic education that I am wishing any real college university would offer a degree in if wanted. Numismatics are far more important to history than many other sub-majors offered by the CSU systems here in California. Just sayin' and Thanks again folks

 

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This forum is Cointalk correct. More and more replies seem to be like those at PCGS making the OP a suspect in his own thread.

Let's try to take any OP's thread for what it is instead of going into it for pony points.

I say to the OP nice pickup. If he paid $18 or $400 for the Morgan he seems he is happy with the deal he got. As to selling or buying on ebay. If you or your dog name Blu can save a bit on Ebay fees bartering with the seller for U.S. greenbacks so be it.

I wake up today and read this forum about a nice pick-up and then I see a few members reaching deep into something to discredit an OP. Just don't get it. This is why I Never would join the other coin forums on the net. Thanks for listening my Sunday afternoon rant. Nice Morgan OP. G

 

Isn't that breaking policy ? I mean it specifically states that is against the eBay policy. So if you do that, it IS breaking policy. And by this admission, I believe the seller and buyer can both be banned. eBay is a business that charges a fee for it's services just like any other. To utilize the service and circumvent paying the fees is fraud and actually a crime. People who steal are thieves, whether it be a shoplifter or an embezzler or anything in between. Still the American Way seems to be "Hooray for ME and screw YOU". Just another reason people who deal in coins get such a bad reputation. Honesty seems to be second to the "DEAL" IMHO

 

Well as the case is that the purchase was still made through EB/PP they get their cut of the deal, add in those messages are NOT private and can be viewed at any time by EB Mods and the fact that this exact type of deal happens thousands of times a day there is no "crime" occurring. The simple fact is EB does not give a Rats arse how it happens as long as they get their cut. No rules are being broken as long as you are using their messageing system and paying through their system there is no crime of any kind being commited. Even if you do go outside of EB and make a private sale it is not a crime it is simply against their "rules". Last I checked EB was not a government capable of making and enforcing laws, they have to obey the same ones we do and there is no law saying a person can't make a private sale of anything they own at any time to any person. Well at least not here in the USA, can't say the same for everywhere else in the world. So as I said in my 1st post on returning, I'm not going to let some prick/coin Nazi/internet police types spoil my fun. That said, anyone that doesn't like my posts too bad for you if you don't like them don't read them. If you need to rip apart or belittle someone else to make yourself feel better it only shows just what kind of small minded jerks you really are. I pity you, your family and any other poor sap that has not choice but to deal with you.

 

Actually, I believe in honesty to a fault. And it has always served me well. I made a decent living, educated my children at Berkeley and USC for which I paid for. I follow the rules and people who deal with me KNOW the integrity they are getting. I don't cut corners as seems to be so popular among so many today. If I were ever going to cheat, it wouldn't be for something so cheap. I refuse to sell my word for a few lousy dollars, much less a few cents. YOU, however, I would seriously keep both eyes on ALL the time, as YOU seem to prefer back stabbing and conniving to further yourself, based on your response. MY integrity is not as questionable as you seem to feel yours is. Hard Fact, based on what you said. But forewarned is forearmed. THANKS for the heads up.

 

you broke the EBay's rules. I don't know how you sleep at night.

 

Again it is not ME implying or commiting any dishonesty in my dealings/purchases. If I happen to misdirect or misquote prices or dealing I have with others on a public forum to preserve a certain level of privacy there is no real dishonesty occurring. From you own statement you are obviously the type to tell your wife that it ain't the dress that makes her arse look fat. It is never the person fudging facts that I worry about it is as usual the uptight moralist prig that ALWAYS tells the truth regardless of the hurt or harm caused by it that I fear. My dealings are honest, weather buying or selling. What I refuse to do is to conform to rules and regulations imposed by persons or companies that have no legal right to do so. My dealings all conform to US law even those laws I do not like or approve of. I have never been accused of cheating or even violating ANY laws, so take whatever forewarning from this that you want but in my experience it has always been the finger pointers that are most often guilty of the very happenings that they accuse others of. They do so for the simple fact that they know that is exactly what they would do in the same situation. That being the case Thank You for the heads up.

 

Wow, the weekender collecting experts are out in force.

 

The point is, Morgans are not readily available on eBay for melt, or slightly above melt, or even 50% over melt. And any seller that lets one go for under $30 is losing money... however, he just may be a generous dealer who doesn't mind losing a few bucks in order to improve customer relations.

 

I can't believe anyone here thinks that any eBay seller would take a deal for half of what the final bid was when the auction closed? Of course he didn't break eBay policy, it's listed under "sold listings" so it sold, for the price listed. If that same coin sold for half the price after it finished at auction; that would mean that whoever was the highest bidder at hammer will have their transaction canceled by the seller and the coin will be shipped of to you at significantly less money than it was sold for? If you get deals like this than you are a 5-star eBay General and we should all kneel and kiss your pinky ring. Or, like I said before, maybe the pictures you listed in the OP were/are the wrong ones? I like the coin, as I'm sure you will to :smile

p.s. anyone who thinks that we are wrong for asking questions about a public post on a public coin forum when the pieces just don't add up... has there head in the wrong place. Learning is a process, just as finding the truth is.

 

I don't think you get it. The cheaper the coin sells for the less capital gains tax the seller has to pay. That's probably why he canceled the original sale and sold it cheaper. You guys all report any gains via coin sales to the Irs?

 

i get it cause this sale was Not canceled, it Sold at auction to the highest bidder. i learned a nice trick from ATS that even on BIN completed listings under Best Offer, if you change the .com to .ca under the listings URL, it shows the exact price the item sold for. I don't sell very many coins, but when the time comes to pay the IRS... They get theirs :smile

Example of the trick:

Best offer excepted: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1888-1-NGC-MS65-/370786772448?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item56549d25e0&nma=true&si=KdKMXKeIAU%252BBzggCy0ticJvrXyw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Price Realized using the .ca: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1888-1-NGC-MS65-/370786772448?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item56549d25e0&nma=true&si=KdKMXKeIAU%252BBzggCy0ticJvrXyw%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557#ht_858wt_1113

 

thanks for sharing that trick.

 

Nice pick-up. Funny seeing you getting ripped for what in essence isn't an Ebay violation, by a lot of the same people who constantly rip into Ebay for being crooks and unfair and a terrible place. Maybe they're just unhappy regardless.
Guy

 

its the least I could do considering it was shared to me on another public coin forum :smile

 

Get off your high horse you pompous whatchamacallit. Weasel's good folk......

 

Lets see - nice pickup. As to all the other stuff - ignore it. I have bought a couple items off ebay where the seller created something specific for me away from the original auction - but we still went thru ebay and paypal. So enjoy it.

 

Well said Greenie . Guess some people just get off on thinking their own ----- doesn't stink .

 

No kidding!

The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons. --R.W. Emerson

 

You can make an offer on any coin, and then pay thru paypal.

He did nothing wrong, except in your minds.

Honesty to a fault?
Then why criticize others without all of the facts.
So, you are saying that NO ONE can make an offer unless so stated?
Not true, anyone can make an offer, it is the seller's right to reject it.
It was posted to ebay as a sold item, and paid, no one got away with anything, ebay got paid on the final sale value.

Ridiculous statement, how do you sleep? By making yourself better than others?


This entire thread has gotten completely out of hand and should be locked.