The first was hard to photograph but bought from a dealer in New York named Frank Shaskan (sp?) over 20 years ago. In hand it is wonderfully PL with a decent amount of red not seen in the photos: The second I just got a cpl months ago at auction, and it is a star esp at this level of preservation (lower Mintage to start and dumped into active circulation) and Mintage 96,000 - that would not usually be scarce but these were paid out and activel used in commerce:
