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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2649140, member: 27832"]After lots of discussion here, my understanding is that it's the <i>work hardening</i> done on copper-nickel that makes the date more resistant to etching. Metal flows toward the voids in the die, hardening as it's deformed. (You're not going to compress most metals to a higher <i>density</i> with ordinary pressures, and even if you did, that should make the compressed areas <i>more</i> resistant to attack.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Copper should be subject to the same effect, but I'm not aware of many copper coins that lose their dates in such a way that they're amenable to restoration. You'd need an oxidizing acid like nitric, or an acid mixed with another oxidant like hydrogen peroxide, to make it happen.</p><p><br /></p><p>Steel is <i>most definitely</i> subject to work-hardening, and so you'd expect restoration to work there, too.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't think silver work-hardens as much, and I'm quite sure gold doesn't -- it's one of the most malleable and ductile of metals.</p><p><br /></p><p>One member here has <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/psa-vinegar-dating-is-the-best.282307/page-4#post-2517017" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/psa-vinegar-dating-is-the-best.282307/page-4#post-2517017">posted photos of date-restored SLQs</a>, but I still don't think we've got an answer about what was in the product that did it. And more to the point, while venues like eBay still offer a steady stream of dateless SLQs, I see no "restored date" keys there or anywhere else. Why the difference?</p><p><br /></p><p>And what other coins are commonly found "dateless"? I see Buffalo nickels, a <i>few</i> Liberty/V and Shield nickels, SLQs, and occasionally Walkers. Maybe an occasional cent, although they're usually trashed in other ways as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's <i>possible</i> that I'm completely wrong here, and that you can restore dates on silver coins just as reliably as on copper-nickel, except that the chemicals are too hazardous to be generally available. But if that were true, given the financial rewards available, I'd expect <i>someone</i> would be doing it, and we'd be seeing the products on eBay and/or in Details slabs. I'm not seeing them, and that makes me think it's because nobody can produce them.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2649140, member: 27832"]After lots of discussion here, my understanding is that it's the [I]work hardening[/I] done on copper-nickel that makes the date more resistant to etching. Metal flows toward the voids in the die, hardening as it's deformed. (You're not going to compress most metals to a higher [I]density[/I] with ordinary pressures, and even if you did, that should make the compressed areas [I]more[/I] resistant to attack.) Copper should be subject to the same effect, but I'm not aware of many copper coins that lose their dates in such a way that they're amenable to restoration. You'd need an oxidizing acid like nitric, or an acid mixed with another oxidant like hydrogen peroxide, to make it happen. Steel is [I]most definitely[/I] subject to work-hardening, and so you'd expect restoration to work there, too. I don't think silver work-hardens as much, and I'm quite sure gold doesn't -- it's one of the most malleable and ductile of metals. One member here has [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/psa-vinegar-dating-is-the-best.282307/page-4#post-2517017']posted photos of date-restored SLQs[/URL], but I still don't think we've got an answer about what was in the product that did it. And more to the point, while venues like eBay still offer a steady stream of dateless SLQs, I see no "restored date" keys there or anywhere else. Why the difference? And what other coins are commonly found "dateless"? I see Buffalo nickels, a [I]few[/I] Liberty/V and Shield nickels, SLQs, and occasionally Walkers. Maybe an occasional cent, although they're usually trashed in other ways as well. It's [I]possible[/I] that I'm completely wrong here, and that you can restore dates on silver coins just as reliably as on copper-nickel, except that the chemicals are too hazardous to be generally available. But if that were true, given the financial rewards available, I'd expect [I]someone[/I] would be doing it, and we'd be seeing the products on eBay and/or in Details slabs. I'm not seeing them, and that makes me think it's because nobody can produce them.[/QUOTE]
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