Featured NGC World Coin Submission

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by stldanceartist, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Hey everyone!

    So, I recently sent off a batch of world coins to NGC for encapsulation. I'd gotten the notification that my NGC membership had been renewed and that my $150 account credit would expire next year. My first thought was "Oh, crap!" - because I'd been planning to wait until this moment to combine my account credit from LAST year, and I was pretty sure I'd screwed up and lost that credit.

    I called NGC the next morning, and (long story short) they were extremely kind to give me a one-week extension (another reason I love sending business to NGC; they are almost always friendly, helpful, and understanding.) Now, I was supposed to leave for the weekend for a wedding with my girlfriend, meaning if I waited until I got back to send the coins off I might miss that window. The coins had to be sent that day.

    Very quickly, and a bit recklessly, I combed through my boxes of "keepers" and made quick decisions on which coins to send in. As you will see below, I probably sent in some great coins...and I made some likely mistakes. The way I tried to look at it was that (even though I'd paid for my membership) they were "free" submissions, so I could send in some coins I really liked - but maybe weren't that valuable.

    I'll try to share as many photos of what I sent in as possible (I might not have each coin imaged already.)

    Canada - 1947 1 Cent

    Mintage: 31,093,901
    Krause value (MS63): $7.50

    Canada - 1947 Cent.jpg
    Note: under normal circumstances, I probably wouldn't have submitted this coin due to the scratches on the obverse. The obverse is gorgeously emerald toned with some hints of indigo and blue/red, the reverse a mix of original orange and deeper red. Oh well. We'll see what NGC says - most likely UNC Details (Scratched) or (hopefully not) AU Details.

    Cape Verde - 1930 5 Centavos
    Mintage: 1,000,000
    Krause value (UNC): $10.00​

    Cape Verde - 1930 5 Centavos.jpg

    Note: Honestly, this is just a gorgeous coin, and I'm looking forward to seeing what grade it gets. I don't really care if the book value ends up being the price of a cheap pizza.

    Ceylon - 1937 1 Cent
    Mintage: 4,538,000
    Krause value (UNC): $3.00

    Ceylon - 1937 Cent.jpg

    Note: Another gorgeous coin with attractive color...but not a ton of book value. At this point in this post, my brain is going "YOU JUST WASTED THREE SUBMISSIONS!!" But I will press on, and accept the coin back with open arms, because it's just stunning in hand.

    Dominican Republic - 1937 1 Centavo
    Mintage: 1,000,000
    Krause value (BU): $100

    Dominican Republic - 1937 1 Centavo.jpg

    Note: This is a coin I almost sold to someone a while ago, and was actually very happy when they decided against it. First coin to actually have a "worthwhile" book value.

    Egypt - 1935 H 1 Millieme
    Mintage: 18,000,000
    Krause value (UNC): $8.00

    Egypt - 1935 H 1 Millieme.jpg

    Note: This coin I just had to send in to see if it comes back in a straight holder. The photos don't do the luster justice (more to show the color) but the coin is drool-worthy in hand. It will be interesting to see if NGC finds the color acceptable.

    Canada - 1971 Specimen Dollar
    Mintage: 585,674
    Krause value (none given)

    Canada - 1971 Dollar.jpg

    Note: This is a coin I just wanted in a slab due to color - another gorgeous clamshell pickup.

    Hong Kong - 1863 1 Cent
    Mintage: 1,000,000
    Krause value (UNC): $225

    Hong Kong - 1863 One Cent.jpg

    Hong Kong - 1923 1 Cent
    Mintage: 2,500,000
    Krause value (UNC): $40.00​

    Hong Kong - 1923 One Cent.jpg

    Ireland - 1933 1 Farthing
    Mintage: 480,000
    Krause value (UNC): $16.50

    Ireland - 1933 Farthing.jpg

    Note: Lovely toning on both sides, I'm very hopeful this coin gets some love from the graders.

    Morocco - 1952 50 Francs
    Mintage: 20,600,000
    Krause value (BU): $25.00​

    Morocco - 1952 50 Francs.jpg

    Note: This coin, which has been posted here before, is absolutely proof like in hand and I'm really interested to see if NGC notes it on the slab. A beautiful coin and one of the favorites in my collection.

    OKAY - so that's the first ten. I still have five more (I might actually have all of them imaged, so that's cool!) so hang tight - I'll post them shortly.

    If anyone feels like having fun and throwing out what they think NGC will say about these coins (as they are currently in Grading/Quality Control we'll know the answers soon) feel free.
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  3. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Part 2

    Mozambique - 1936 20 Cents
    Mintage: 2,500,000
    Krause value (UNC): $90.00

    Mozambique - 1936 20 Centavos.jpg

    Note: Another beautiful coin with interesting color and lots of luster.

    Netherlands Antilles - 1965 2.5 Cents (fish & star)
    Mintage: 150,000
    Krause value (BU): $17.50

    Netherlands Antilles - 1965 (fish and star) 2.5 Cents.jpg
    Note: It will be interesting to see how NGC reacts to the color - because the luster on this coin is absolutely spectacular in hand.

    Suriname - 1962 1 Gulden
    Mintage: 150,000
    Krause value (BU): $15.00

    Suriname - 1962 1 Gulden.jpg
    Note: Another coin I shared a while ago, the only photos I have of it (which aren't that great, to be honest - at least showing I've made some progress) are from 2013. When I posted it, I immediately had someone offer to buy it. I declined - so it will be interesting to see what it grades. Color is much better in hand vs. what the images look like.

    Thailand - 1938 "Rama VIII Return to Bangkok Medal"
    Mintage: unknown
    Retail value: Last one (an AU in similar condition) sold for $1200 USD

    Thailand - 1938 Return To Bangkok Medal.jpg

    Note: I think this is a really cool piece, but it will be interesting to see what it gets from NGC grade wise. Cleaned? scratched? straight grade? Who knows. Either way, it was a heck of a lot of fun to attribute.

    Canada - 1954 Prooflike 1 Dollar
    Mintage: 3,000
    Book value from Coins & Canada (PL65): $170

    Canada - 1954 Prooflike Dollar.jpg

    Note: This is just a gorgeous prooflike dollar with low mintage, cameo contrasts, and relatively clean fields. Will go straight into my slab box when it gets back.

    So, that's all 15 coins I sent this time - my next two submissions will be US only (I have some amazing toners and good varieties, plus a bulk submission of high-grade BU Franklin Halves) so hopefully I get some good news from the grading table soon.

    Enjoy, and thanks for checking out some of my favorite coins :)
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  4. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I really like your coin photography. Better than most, without being into that "glamour shots" over-the-top look. I also rarely look at world coins (to the chagrin of Doug), so these are all interesting to me.

    Good luck with the submissions.
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  5. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Thank you for the kind words - I do my best to try to make the coins look as close as they do in hand without (like you said) going way overboard trying to highlight one particular aspect :)
  6. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    Absolutely delightful group of coins.

    That Moroccan coin likely came out of a mint set - they made these with a special finish. I've seen PCGS designate them as "specimens," although they aren't officially recognized as specimen strikes. I've never seen NGC designate one as PL, but I don't see why they wouldn't.

    Also, if that comes back with a PL, I will offer you obscene amounts of cash to purchase it.
  7. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Nice looking group. I have a bunch of older world coins that I bought because the loan shop from which I purchased the lot insisted there was absolutely no silver whatsoever. So far I've found about 150 or so with varying percentages of silver. Best hundred bucks I ever spent.
  8. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    I remember when I posted it here the first time, and people (it may have even been you but also @1934 Wreath Crown) wondered if it was a proof or a gold strike (I believe 1934WC owns one of the two?)

    Fingers crossed, my friend, fingers crossed. No matter what they say, it's still one of my favorite coins :)
  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    Gold would be pretty easy to tell, as it would weigh significantly more than usual. And I'm sure that I would not have said proof, because there are no proof strikes of this issue.
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    The 1947 Canadian is the blunt 7 variety,which does have a small premium , nice bunch of toned world coins.
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  11. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Very nice set. Be sure to share the grading results with us.
  12. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Awesome toners.
    I really like your selection criteria for submissions: Just purdy-lookin' world coins. And some nice-value coins in there, too.

    PLEASE share the results!
  13. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    Can't wait to see your results especially the Thai medal!
  14. Gallienus

    Gallienus Well-Known Member

    Very nice pieces as well as photography. I agree with the other commenter here that the photos are nice without being outrageous. Also I like that you listed the catalog values & mintages so that those of us unfamiliar with the pieces have a better idea of them.

    The only piece that falls in my [many] areas of interest is the Dom.Republic 1937 1 cent that you've tried not to get rid of. Also I'm usually quite happy to get pieces in the ms-62 or occasionally ms-63 range: which don't compare to these.
  15. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Thanks to everyone who has responded - as usual, thanks for the kind words - just wanted to update that we are still sitting at Grading/Quality Control and I'll update the post with grades once they post to NGC's website. Hoping for some good news!

    (Note: I didn't want to post this response and get anyone's hopes up too early, but since we've had a couple replies I felt it wouldn't cause too much of a fuss.)
  16. PlatinumDuck

    PlatinumDuck New Member

    Nice group of coins. I really like the Canada 1954 dollar and the Ireland farthing. Good luck on your submission!
  17. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter



    Canada 1947 1c - MS65BN
    Cape Verde 1930 5c - Unc Details (rev cleaned - I do NOT get this at all)
    Ceylon 1937 1c - MS66BN (Top Pop)
    Dominican Republic 1937 1c - MS63BN
    Egypt 1935H 1m - MS64BN
    Canada 1971 $1 - SP67
    Hong Kong 1863 1c - MS64BN
    Hong Kong 1923 1c - MS65RB
    Ireland 1933 1/4d - MS65BN
    Morocco 1951 50f - MS66PL (Top Pop) (got it @physics-fan3.14 !!)
    Mozambique 1936 20c - MS65BN
    Netherlands Antilles 1965 2.5c - MS66+BN (Top Pop)
    Suriname 1962 1g - MS65
    Thai Medal - UNC Details (cleaned) (haha fair enough)
    Canada 1954 $1 - PL67

    So, I haven’t really had a lot of time to process this yet (very happy about almost everything except that Cape Verde, which I really just don’t see at all) - and I’ll be busy for a couple hours...but you are welcome to share your reactions in the meantime.

    Thanks for looking!
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2019
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  18. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I would be happy with those results. They almost always tag 1-2 with the cleaned designation when I send stuff in. Rarely do I see it coming. The San Marino coin I currently have there will almost certainly get it.
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  19. Mkman123

    Mkman123 Well-Known Member

    @stldanceartist Can you share the cert # for the thai medal? I wanna see how it looks in the NGC plastic. MAN too bad it was details! ARGH, however I still may want it. haha
  20. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Congratulations! Well done.

    As for this one...
    I don't get it either. Who would clean just one side of a coin?
  21. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Variety Collector

    I agree 100% and what frost my cookies is the fact that most of us older collectors know a problem coin to begin with....so why spend the funds to try and get something graded when you doupt its condition yourself?
    I have an 1943/2 nickel that had been in a bank roll that was rolled in a money cage at the Federal Reserve bank of Richmond Baltimore branch from a mint bag .
    My father was a Federal Reserve Agent. After his passing I cracked a roll of his 43 P Jeff's. That he purchased in 1943 . Never opened until I cracked it....and yet it came back cleaned....Details Bull Feathers!
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