NGC World Coin Price Guide not working?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by stldanceartist, Sep 27, 2021.

  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Hello everyone - just trying to put together a post with some links, and noticed that the NGC World Coin Price Guide page isn't working correctly.

    I sent them an email last week about the search bar redirecting to the wrong coins (no response) and now that I've checked back I see that the search bar (supposed to be under "Search Terms" isn't even there any more.

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    Am I the only one seeing this, or is it not working for everyone else?

    Using Safari and Firefox browsers.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    It did that to me last week & I use chrome, so I assume it's on their end.
     
  4. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    A short while ago, the NGC Forum site was also displaying error messages when trying to navigate between pages.
     
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  5. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Right now, it's the same for me.
     
  6. Mac McDonald

    Mac McDonald Well-Known Member

    Hey...maybe they're short-staffed, also...like so many businesses/employers claim. Regardless, have had similar issues with it before...IMO just don't think they seem to be very responsive no matter when or why.
     
  7. Maxfli

    Maxfli Supporter! Supporter

    It worked for me last night, but yeah, it can be a bit fussy.
     
  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    As much as I usually prefer NGC, their world coin value search is one of the jankiest api's on the web. When it's "working" it barely works, and you have to sort through hundreds of results to find what you want. If you know exactly what you are looking for, you probably already have the catalog and don't need the wonky NGC website to being with.

    Honestly, just buy the latest Krause and don't deal with that NGC website crap.
     
  9. Maxfli

    Maxfli Supporter! Supporter

    Perhaps we come at it with different objectives, but I've usually found the site to be functional and very useful. Only occasionally have I had issues with it when it's slow to load.
     
  10. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks Supporter

    Have to agree with you - NGC is FAR behind PCGS' website in terms of...well...most things. (Sorry, NGC, it's really true...PCGS is absolutely winning the digital marketplace.)

    And while I agree with you in theory (I already have copies of the Krause manuals) it's difficult to include hyperlinks to a physical book when posting something online. Although, Numista seems to be vastly improved since the last time my brain remembers regularly trying to use it, so...maybe that's my go to online reference/price guide for a while.
     
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  11. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity Supporter

    @stldanceartist …it’s still messed up. I just sent them another email reporting it again…Spark
     
  12. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, if you compare the current page to the internet archive (World Coin Price Guide and Values | NGC (archive.org)) there is a whole block of code missing.

    Code:
    <div class="typeahead-inner">
                            <ccg-typeahead placeholder="Enter coin description and select your coin from the list." searching-label="Searching..." no-results-label="No coins match your search. Please try again." search-url="/resources/services/coin-search/price-guide/world/search/?keywords=" result-fields="CoinDescription" style="
        width: auto;
    "></ccg-typeahead>
    </div>
     
  13. Maxfli

    Maxfli Supporter! Supporter

    Russian hackers? :D
     
  14. Stork

    Stork I deliver Supporter

    IIRC awhile back NGC contracted to get a big website upgrade. It was partially implemented by then the company engaged in some sort of shenanigans (I really don't remember all the details, only that NGC was apparently taken severely advantage of). In any case, it totally disrupted a lot of their website stuff, so the forums got a bit of a cosmetic upgrade, the registry stuff got a new format, but the custom sets and the price guide are still stuck in 2004. I was hoping for better by now but no such luck. I do believe there is/was a lawsuit involved.
     
  15. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    NGC et al sued GLOBANT in THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA TAMPA DIVISION, Civil Action No. 19-CV-1962

    The case was ultimately dismissed after the parties mediated a settlement.

    Basically reads like CCG contracted for a new ERP from a company, PointSource, which sold itself to Globant.

    But there is nothing in the complaint about the website.
     
  16. Stork

    Stork I deliver Supporter

    Cool. I was remembering it as the website was part of the deal, but that was probably just message board gossip. Mediation was probably a good thing. But seriously, 2004 (or maybe 2008 at a stretch) wants it's website back.
     
  17. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    It's been working fine for me...generally, but I usually navigate to NGC's world coin guide through a method other than their search page.

    I typically just search 'year-country-type/demoniation' in Google's search engine and I usually get the correct NGC and/or Numista hits in the top 1-3 results.

    I guess Google's search algorithm is more adept that NGC's own search website interface.
     
  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    From what I've heard, "short-staffed" is an understatement.

    I think Numista might be the wave of the future, but I don't use it as a pricing reference. KM is still the standard there.
     
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  19. Maxfli

    Maxfli Supporter! Supporter

    What is KM?
     
  20. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    ROTFLMAO

    Has Krause been updated since the bankruptcy?

    Numista's value is the crowd sourced catalog. I bought a coin from the Royal mint in the afternoon at the ANA WFoM show in 2019.

    Checking on Numista after I left the booth the coin wasn't listed. I entered the data and took a picture of the COA. By the time I got back to my room after dinner it was now listed.

    But I will agree they don't have great sources for pricing data.
     
  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Krause-Mishler. The Krause Standard Catalog of World Coins (SCWC), in other words.
     
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