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<p>[QUOTE="calcol, post: 2564935, member: 77639"]There is a LOT more to the hobby than grading. I'm old enough to remember the bad days before slabbing. The biggest service TPGs do is not grading; it's authenticating. In the bad old days, you had to be able to decide if that nice shiny seated liberty was real or not, which was a lot more important than whether it was AU or BU. A lot of folks who can do a great job of grading certain series would be fooled by a good struck counterfeit. They'd give a very accurate grade to the counterfeit though.</p><p><br /></p><p>One of the scariest nights I had in the hobby is when a prominent dealer set down with a small group of us collectors and showed us his "dark" collection. They were all counterfeits. Some were crude casts and easy to identify. The best though were beyond our ability to distinguish from the real thing. He had to point out very small details to show the difference between real and fake.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think many collectors are really good at grading because they have looked at thousands of slabs and in reality, have learned grading courtesy of TPGs. But few of these folks have looked at even a dozen good fakes. Without slabs, they would have to get an additional education to avoid spending real money on fake money.</p><p><br /></p><p>ANACS photo-certificates were a step in the right direction, but I can remember certificates, especially black and whites, being sold without coins among dealers at shows. Send a coin in, get a certificate, find a cheaper coin that resembles the photo, sell the pair, send in the original coin for another certificate, repeat. Certificates alone had value. All you had to do is find a coin that resembled the photo but of lower grade than stated, then sell the pair. Slabs put an end to the practice.</p><p><br /></p><p>Personally, I'm interested in grading along with other facets of numismatics, but not authenticating. But if someone is interested in varieties, history, etc. and in neither grading nor authenticating, they can rely on TPGs to lift a burden of concern. If they buy a NGC or PCGS coin with a green sticker at a price published in a popular guide, chances of a total rip-off are very small indeed.</p><p><br /></p><p>Cal[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="calcol, post: 2564935, member: 77639"]There is a LOT more to the hobby than grading. I'm old enough to remember the bad days before slabbing. The biggest service TPGs do is not grading; it's authenticating. In the bad old days, you had to be able to decide if that nice shiny seated liberty was real or not, which was a lot more important than whether it was AU or BU. A lot of folks who can do a great job of grading certain series would be fooled by a good struck counterfeit. They'd give a very accurate grade to the counterfeit though. One of the scariest nights I had in the hobby is when a prominent dealer set down with a small group of us collectors and showed us his "dark" collection. They were all counterfeits. Some were crude casts and easy to identify. The best though were beyond our ability to distinguish from the real thing. He had to point out very small details to show the difference between real and fake. I think many collectors are really good at grading because they have looked at thousands of slabs and in reality, have learned grading courtesy of TPGs. But few of these folks have looked at even a dozen good fakes. Without slabs, they would have to get an additional education to avoid spending real money on fake money. ANACS photo-certificates were a step in the right direction, but I can remember certificates, especially black and whites, being sold without coins among dealers at shows. Send a coin in, get a certificate, find a cheaper coin that resembles the photo, sell the pair, send in the original coin for another certificate, repeat. Certificates alone had value. All you had to do is find a coin that resembled the photo but of lower grade than stated, then sell the pair. Slabs put an end to the practice. Personally, I'm interested in grading along with other facets of numismatics, but not authenticating. But if someone is interested in varieties, history, etc. and in neither grading nor authenticating, they can rely on TPGs to lift a burden of concern. If they buy a NGC or PCGS coin with a green sticker at a price published in a popular guide, chances of a total rip-off are very small indeed. Cal[/QUOTE]
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