NGC Promotional Slab & Mystery Holder

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Hello all,

    Does anyone know anything about the following items? Thank you for any info!
    @Burton Strauss III

    (1) NGC Promotional Holder ...the cool thing about this one is that I have actually bought from and sold to this dealer...anyone know if this is a common or more scarce slab?
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    (2) These just say "Certified MS65" in the lower left corner and can easily be opened...I think I have seen these before, but don't remember where. Is it a Littleton product?

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I don't think that slab has anything to do with NGC. They do sell slabs that you can basically put whatever coin and label you want into it.
     
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  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    OK
    Thanks for showing the reverse side now. I didn't know
    And.. I think you answered your own question with the link you provided ;)

    Also.. here is the North Bay website http://www.northbayrarecoin.com/
     
  6. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I do the self slab thing, more now then ever. self slab 2a.jpg
     
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  7. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Whizzer, your self slabbing is irrelevant & Denis is correct, this is a legit NGC product, manufactured by them, sonically sealed, etc. Paddyman, you appear to be correct in that the dealer could basically dictate the text.

    In The Sample Slabs book, @Davidschwager lists a couple from this type, NGC-025-9-2 from John Maben and NGC-025-9-3 from NGC itself. Maybe some new ones in the 2nd edition also.

    The assumption - unverified AFAIK - is that NGC did these to allow dealers to promote themselves to customers (and cross-promote NGC). Probably did a box at a time or whatever at dirt cheap prices since there is no grading involved, and the dealer probably had to provide the coins.

    Denis - if you know these people, it would be worth a call to see if they might remember the quantity, cost, timeframe, etc.
     
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  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I have dealt with them at a a few shows, but don't know them too well. I might try to contact them or just wait until the next show and see if I can ask in person.

    So this particular one is not in the Sample Slab book?
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    For all the odd and questionable things the TPG's do with labeling, this seems like a reasonable cross-marketing ploy.
     
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  10. dwhiz

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  11. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @dwhiz

    There is nothing wrong with putting items into your own slabs to save money. Many items don't need to be certified and this is the perfect alternative to keeping those coins in safer conditions at a lower cost.

    By the way, you should add your cointalk avatar on the back of your self slab and then you'd have you own personal slab (maybe it'll even become collectible:)).
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Also, anyone know anything about the holders in part (2)? @Conder101

    Is it a Littleton or some similar company's product?
     
  13. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    MMM good idea, now I'm really irrelevant
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  14. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    If NGC sells unsealed slabs, it would give counterfeiters an easy first step.

    Cal
     
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  15. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Not in v1... I didn't submit it for v2, but somebody else might have. Otherwise it's for v3 in 2018.

    They don't. It's likely a few have been improperly sealed over the years. And at least one poster has commented he can crack them cleanly in a vice. But they don't get out intentionally...
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It isn't a slab, just a Whitman style plastic 2X2 with a paper label inside it. You will almost certainly find it is not sealed in any way. (Certified? By whom? No company name or even initials) Any one who wants to make up something like that can do it.
     
  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Update on the NGC Promotional Holder according to the dealer:

    ~NGC ran a promotion circa 2004-2005 for this type of holder
    ~We can thus assume this holder was from 2005 (based on the coin being a 2005)
    ~This type had about 200 produced

    @Burton Strauss III
     
  18. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    u ROCK dude! I assume you've seen the other one posted today in another thread?
     
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  19. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

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  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    IMO, Any Authorized Dealer can ask and pay for these types of slabs.

    As for collectibility? I suppose that folks can collect whatever they want but I think that having them mentioned or even referenced in a "Sample Slab" book or document is a bit over the top.

    TNFC Sample Slab 2004 Florida State Quarter Slab ObvW.jpg TNFC Sample Slab 2004 Florida State Quarter Slab RevW.jpg

    Anybody collect Matchbooks?
     
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