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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1046127, member: 112"]You misinterpret my comments Vess. It's not that I think they are the end all resource for researching pricing - it's merely that they are the best one we have available to us. And there's good, valid reasons I think that. There is no other resource that shows you not only realized prices from auctions, they also show you the differences if any between NGC and PCGS, they show you the Numismedia prices, they show you Coin World prices too. And they show you all of these prices side by side in one convenient place. </p><p><br /></p><p>And Heriatge is not just for high end coins. There are literally millions of them in the $50 to $300 range. You just have to look for them.</p><p><br /></p><p>And when a listed price looks to be out of line with the other prices, Heritage also gives you the advantage of being to go look at that coin and possibly see why that price was so much lower or so much higher than all the others. No other pricing research tool affords you that ability that either.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for ebay - any way you want to look at it you always have to at least think about who the buyers are and if those prices they pay are valid. If you don't, you are doing yourself a disservice. I'm not saying not to buy coins on ebay - by all means you should as long as you know and trust the seller. There are some absolutely wonderful sellers on ebay ! But they are not distinguished by their feedback ratings. They can only be distibguished by their reputations in the hobby of which ebay is only a tiny part.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some of the worst, most despicable scammers there are or have ever been have some of the best feedback ratings you will ever see on ebay. And if nothing else this fact alone should be more than enough to prove to anyone that the realized prices you find on ebay are not to be trusted. For if there are enough people out there to buy the junk sold by these scammers and still give that seller an outstanding feedback rating in the tens of thousands - how do you know these same people are not buying from others and thus skewing the realized prices ?</p><p><br /></p><p>I mean if they are stupid enough to buy all of the SGS (and others like them) coins, if they are stupid enough to buy all the obvious Chinese fakes, the altered dates, the altered mintmarks, the harshly cleaned, the damaged coins - all of the problem coins - and yet pay full retail for these. Then how can anyone possibly trust the realized prices on ebay knowing these people are the same ones bidding on the coins you are bidding on ? Do you think they ONLY buy the junk ? No, they bid on the good stuff too. And more times than not they pay way too much.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 1046127, member: 112"]You misinterpret my comments Vess. It's not that I think they are the end all resource for researching pricing - it's merely that they are the best one we have available to us. And there's good, valid reasons I think that. There is no other resource that shows you not only realized prices from auctions, they also show you the differences if any between NGC and PCGS, they show you the Numismedia prices, they show you Coin World prices too. And they show you all of these prices side by side in one convenient place. And Heriatge is not just for high end coins. There are literally millions of them in the $50 to $300 range. You just have to look for them. And when a listed price looks to be out of line with the other prices, Heritage also gives you the advantage of being to go look at that coin and possibly see why that price was so much lower or so much higher than all the others. No other pricing research tool affords you that ability that either. As for ebay - any way you want to look at it you always have to at least think about who the buyers are and if those prices they pay are valid. If you don't, you are doing yourself a disservice. I'm not saying not to buy coins on ebay - by all means you should as long as you know and trust the seller. There are some absolutely wonderful sellers on ebay ! But they are not distinguished by their feedback ratings. They can only be distibguished by their reputations in the hobby of which ebay is only a tiny part. Some of the worst, most despicable scammers there are or have ever been have some of the best feedback ratings you will ever see on ebay. And if nothing else this fact alone should be more than enough to prove to anyone that the realized prices you find on ebay are not to be trusted. For if there are enough people out there to buy the junk sold by these scammers and still give that seller an outstanding feedback rating in the tens of thousands - how do you know these same people are not buying from others and thus skewing the realized prices ? I mean if they are stupid enough to buy all of the SGS (and others like them) coins, if they are stupid enough to buy all the obvious Chinese fakes, the altered dates, the altered mintmarks, the harshly cleaned, the damaged coins - all of the problem coins - and yet pay full retail for these. Then how can anyone possibly trust the realized prices on ebay knowing these people are the same ones bidding on the coins you are bidding on ? Do you think they ONLY buy the junk ? No, they bid on the good stuff too. And more times than not they pay way too much.[/QUOTE]
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