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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 1447472, member: 15309&quot;]Sad but true!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Let me give you some advice.&nbsp; Stop taking every little thing I say so damn personally.&nbsp; Absolutely nothing I said was arrogant or condescending.&nbsp; What I said was that you have relegated yourself to buying raw coins because you would be unwilling to buy a slabbed coin since they will all be overgraded by your standards.&nbsp; The seller of the slabbed coin is not going to sell you an MS65 coin at MS64 prices, so the only way for you to obtain a slabbed coin is to pay MS65 prices for what you grade by your standards as an MS64 coin.&nbsp; Now I am sure that on a rare occasion you are willing to pay the premium, but for the most part, your loyalty to the ANA standards will prevent you from being able to buy slabbed coins at commensurate prices.&nbsp; And remember, this all revolves around US coins, not ancients.&nbsp; They are a whole other ball game.&nbsp; And if I really am the &quot;poster child of arrogant slab collectors who believe anything not in plastic is inferior goods&quot; then please explain why I have 6 different Dansco collections!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And you call me arrogant and condescending!&nbsp; What do you call saying that you collect coins not plastic?&nbsp; Graciousness?&nbsp; It isn&#039;t a lie, &quot;roll friction&quot; is perfectly real.&nbsp; Just because you don&#039;t have the ability to see past black and white doesn&#039;t make you right and everybody else wrong.&nbsp; Market grading rules the day.&nbsp; You are the one on the outside looking in.&nbsp; It is your opinion that is in the minority.&nbsp; It has nothing to do with the submitters.&nbsp; It is all about the guy who collects Saint Gaudens double eagles.&nbsp; He wants his high grade uncirculated Saint with high point wear from &quot;roll friction&quot; to be graded MS65 not AU58 like the coin that actually did circulate briefly.&nbsp; It isn&#039;t a damned conspiracy to rip collectors off.&nbsp; That is what happened before the advent of the TPG&#039;s.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>LOL, they are your grading standards.&nbsp; The ANA abandoned their own standards when the decided to designate a TPG as the official grading service of the ANA.&nbsp; A century or more?&nbsp; The ANA grading standards were first published in 1977.&nbsp; Furthermore, if you read the current version of the ANA standards they actually do allow for a coin with &quot;roll friction&quot; to be graded as a mint state coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please answer this question:&nbsp; how do you determine if a coin shows traces high point wear?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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