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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1447425, member: 26302"]First I never said it was necessary to become a grader in today's environment Paul, I said it was necessary in order to understand pricing, pop reports, and the literal tons of information there is about US coins before TPG skewed grades. Reading an AU exists of a coin does you no good if you don't know PCGS probably graded that coin a 63. Saying that historical information of this hobby is irrelevant is simply sad.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding purchasing, you don't know me Paul. Do you know I own a PCGS flowing hair dollar? Its arrogant for you to infer my purchasing habits or ability based upon my thoughts on TPG. Did I ever say I refused to buy a slab if I wished to buy a US coin? No. I haven't even refused to buy an ancient in a slab, though I quickly destroy the slab as soon as I get home for ancients. Why are you so high and mighty smugly looking down at my perceived purchases of "raw" coins, (itself an insulting notion, most coins I own are not raw they are simply not entombed in plastic). You seriously are a poster child of arrogant slab collectors who believe anything not in plastic is inferior goods. Maybe this type of collecting works for you, maybe you truly get a warm fuzzy disdainfully viewing all collectors who own unworthy coins in their collections.</p><p><br /></p><p>To each his own. I collect coins, not plastic, and refuse to accept the word of those who demonstrably are lying point blank to their customers on the grade of a MS63 that is proven to have wear. Its a lie, and a lie promulgated because of "the market" (read large submitters that pay TPG lots of money). At the end of the day, always remember TPG are there to make money from the large dealers, at the expense of collectors. Who eventually pays all of these fees? The collector.</p><p><br /></p><p>Btw, they are not MY grading standards, its the ANA and this hobbies grading standards that have been trampled. If you wish to ignore that and allow for profit corporations dictate their proprietary standards to you as gospel then feel free. I simply ask you to not make fun of us who simply wish to retain the standards that have been in this hobby for a century or more.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1447425, member: 26302"]First I never said it was necessary to become a grader in today's environment Paul, I said it was necessary in order to understand pricing, pop reports, and the literal tons of information there is about US coins before TPG skewed grades. Reading an AU exists of a coin does you no good if you don't know PCGS probably graded that coin a 63. Saying that historical information of this hobby is irrelevant is simply sad. Regarding purchasing, you don't know me Paul. Do you know I own a PCGS flowing hair dollar? Its arrogant for you to infer my purchasing habits or ability based upon my thoughts on TPG. Did I ever say I refused to buy a slab if I wished to buy a US coin? No. I haven't even refused to buy an ancient in a slab, though I quickly destroy the slab as soon as I get home for ancients. Why are you so high and mighty smugly looking down at my perceived purchases of "raw" coins, (itself an insulting notion, most coins I own are not raw they are simply not entombed in plastic). You seriously are a poster child of arrogant slab collectors who believe anything not in plastic is inferior goods. Maybe this type of collecting works for you, maybe you truly get a warm fuzzy disdainfully viewing all collectors who own unworthy coins in their collections. To each his own. I collect coins, not plastic, and refuse to accept the word of those who demonstrably are lying point blank to their customers on the grade of a MS63 that is proven to have wear. Its a lie, and a lie promulgated because of "the market" (read large submitters that pay TPG lots of money). At the end of the day, always remember TPG are there to make money from the large dealers, at the expense of collectors. Who eventually pays all of these fees? The collector. Btw, they are not MY grading standards, its the ANA and this hobbies grading standards that have been trampled. If you wish to ignore that and allow for profit corporations dictate their proprietary standards to you as gospel then feel free. I simply ask you to not make fun of us who simply wish to retain the standards that have been in this hobby for a century or more.[/QUOTE]
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