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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1446321, member: 26302"]I would wear "talented hobbyist" as a badge of honor sir, and would tell you that most "talented hobbyists" are probably more informed, and better experts in the series that they collect than any TPG can ever be. There are many early american copper collectors I would trust their grade on coppers than any TPG. I would trust Ardatirion or Doug Smith's grade on ancients way before any TPG. I would trust Lehigh's grade on a Jefferson nickel before I would trust a TPG. A TPG grader is a generalist who has a few seconds to grade a coin. How that will systematically lead to superior results over someone who may have spent decades studying a series is beyond me. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, of course TPG are good at their grades because they refuse to actually follow a grading guide outside of their own heads. By definition, if PCGS gives a coin a 63, its a PCGS 63 because that is what they gave it. There is no arguing, because there is no standard. Kind of hard beating that system. Now, the fact that coin was maybe fairly graded as a AU55 when it was sold in the 60's doesn't matter, PCGS just made it a PCGS 63, and you will pay accordingly. That is what the submitter to PCGS is counting on. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am just stupid enough to wish to grade properly, and according to historical grading standards. I can see what the TPG are doing, since I am decent enough at guessing their grades too, but it doesn't mean I don't hold my nose while doing it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1446321, member: 26302"]I would wear "talented hobbyist" as a badge of honor sir, and would tell you that most "talented hobbyists" are probably more informed, and better experts in the series that they collect than any TPG can ever be. There are many early american copper collectors I would trust their grade on coppers than any TPG. I would trust Ardatirion or Doug Smith's grade on ancients way before any TPG. I would trust Lehigh's grade on a Jefferson nickel before I would trust a TPG. A TPG grader is a generalist who has a few seconds to grade a coin. How that will systematically lead to superior results over someone who may have spent decades studying a series is beyond me. Also, of course TPG are good at their grades because they refuse to actually follow a grading guide outside of their own heads. By definition, if PCGS gives a coin a 63, its a PCGS 63 because that is what they gave it. There is no arguing, because there is no standard. Kind of hard beating that system. Now, the fact that coin was maybe fairly graded as a AU55 when it was sold in the 60's doesn't matter, PCGS just made it a PCGS 63, and you will pay accordingly. That is what the submitter to PCGS is counting on. I am just stupid enough to wish to grade properly, and according to historical grading standards. I can see what the TPG are doing, since I am decent enough at guessing their grades too, but it doesn't mean I don't hold my nose while doing it.[/QUOTE]
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