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<p>[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1445474, member: 37839"]I'd disagree most strongly. Before TPGs existed, it was the "wild west," and a far more adversarial relationship existed between hobbyists and dealers. Misgrading was the rule, rather than the rare exception (as with TPGs). Coin doctoring was at an all-time high in the early 80's, and while it is far from gone, the TPG services minimize its impact. They also make it possible for internet purchases, as one can see if they think a coin is what they are looking for via photography, and buy it, without traveling all over the country, if one is reasonably savvy With return policies by reputable dealers, that makes life far easier. I live in an area where few coin shows take place that are not a 4-6 hour drive away, and buy lots of coins when it motivates me to do so--for me it is a "time and aggravation" saver . It has enhanced the hobby, and the investment aspects immeasurably,and I really don't see the merit to this back and forth argument. Obviously, some individuals are expert graders here. Others are only "good at it" (like myself), despite over 40 years of collecting. As I said before,TPGs level the playing field,and eliminate a lot of worry and blatant dishonesty from the field. I don't pretend to be the ultimate expert grader--am I pretty good at it? Yes, of course, as I have studied it for years. However, I like expert vindication from a third party, and PCGS and NGC do exactly that for me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Newer collectors and not well-trained ones are given an essential service--if they have price guides and pricing information, they can safely make an enlightened decision, and learn from successes, rather than mistakes. I hailed the advent of third party grading, as it has made my life easier for the past 20 plus years as a collector, and made it possible for the young collector to start out with nice coins that are known to be safe investments. The raw coin market is very tough--even experts get fooled often.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1445474, member: 37839"]I'd disagree most strongly. Before TPGs existed, it was the "wild west," and a far more adversarial relationship existed between hobbyists and dealers. Misgrading was the rule, rather than the rare exception (as with TPGs). Coin doctoring was at an all-time high in the early 80's, and while it is far from gone, the TPG services minimize its impact. They also make it possible for internet purchases, as one can see if they think a coin is what they are looking for via photography, and buy it, without traveling all over the country, if one is reasonably savvy With return policies by reputable dealers, that makes life far easier. I live in an area where few coin shows take place that are not a 4-6 hour drive away, and buy lots of coins when it motivates me to do so--for me it is a "time and aggravation" saver . It has enhanced the hobby, and the investment aspects immeasurably,and I really don't see the merit to this back and forth argument. Obviously, some individuals are expert graders here. Others are only "good at it" (like myself), despite over 40 years of collecting. As I said before,TPGs level the playing field,and eliminate a lot of worry and blatant dishonesty from the field. I don't pretend to be the ultimate expert grader--am I pretty good at it? Yes, of course, as I have studied it for years. However, I like expert vindication from a third party, and PCGS and NGC do exactly that for me. Newer collectors and not well-trained ones are given an essential service--if they have price guides and pricing information, they can safely make an enlightened decision, and learn from successes, rather than mistakes. I hailed the advent of third party grading, as it has made my life easier for the past 20 plus years as a collector, and made it possible for the young collector to start out with nice coins that are known to be safe investments. The raw coin market is very tough--even experts get fooled often.[/QUOTE]
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