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<p>[QUOTE="coppermania, post: 1442632, member: 18304"]In regards to the copper coin grading debate. After sending in many raw Lincoln cents to PCGS and had them bagged for reasons I couldn't see, I started sending the same coins to NGC and having them grade. I stopped sending my copper to PCGS all together. Weather correct or not (and maybe even a conspiracy theory) over the years of buying coins and attending major shows, I started to notice the absence of low VALUE coins in PCGS holders and if so, a low grade seemed present. I started to get the mindset that PCGS just didn't respect copper and thinks of it as a lowly entry level type of coin and they would prefer to grade exceptional high value coins like old gold and such. If they are the "big dogs" where does copper fit in their business model? I don't see them as STRICTER on copper, I just don't think they like it. Is a 1957 D Lincoln cent David Hall quality? That mentality surely is pervasive throughout the company and the dealer network. </p><p><br /></p><p>I believe that NGC likes, loves and RESPECTS the beauty of copper as much as those that collect it. It shows in the grades they award them. It's not that they are less strict but willing to award coins a grade they deserve and are proud to see the coins in their holders. Its having the enthusiasm to say WOW that $5 1957 D Lincoln cent is 66* all day long, and if someone says naw, thats just a plain 65, then they are crazy. As a copper coin lover and collector myself, I had to wake up and realize the understanding/desire NGC has for copper coin surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p>With that said, I do own both companies slabs for sure, this has just been my observation, weather true or not. Although not based on fact, I hope that this post seems even a little intelligent. In the end we are arguing over 1 grade point, which is really no big deal. </p><p><br /></p><p>Matt[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="coppermania, post: 1442632, member: 18304"]In regards to the copper coin grading debate. After sending in many raw Lincoln cents to PCGS and had them bagged for reasons I couldn't see, I started sending the same coins to NGC and having them grade. I stopped sending my copper to PCGS all together. Weather correct or not (and maybe even a conspiracy theory) over the years of buying coins and attending major shows, I started to notice the absence of low VALUE coins in PCGS holders and if so, a low grade seemed present. I started to get the mindset that PCGS just didn't respect copper and thinks of it as a lowly entry level type of coin and they would prefer to grade exceptional high value coins like old gold and such. If they are the "big dogs" where does copper fit in their business model? I don't see them as STRICTER on copper, I just don't think they like it. Is a 1957 D Lincoln cent David Hall quality? That mentality surely is pervasive throughout the company and the dealer network. I believe that NGC likes, loves and RESPECTS the beauty of copper as much as those that collect it. It shows in the grades they award them. It's not that they are less strict but willing to award coins a grade they deserve and are proud to see the coins in their holders. Its having the enthusiasm to say WOW that $5 1957 D Lincoln cent is 66* all day long, and if someone says naw, thats just a plain 65, then they are crazy. As a copper coin lover and collector myself, I had to wake up and realize the understanding/desire NGC has for copper coin surfaces. With that said, I do own both companies slabs for sure, this has just been my observation, weather true or not. Although not based on fact, I hope that this post seems even a little intelligent. In the end we are arguing over 1 grade point, which is really no big deal. Matt[/QUOTE]
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