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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1439658, member: 112&quot;]OK Winged, first of all, when I said &quot;other coins&quot; - that does not mean <u>all</u> other coins. That means <u>some</u> other coins. PCGS is tougher on some, and NGC is tougher some. </p><p><br /></p><p>And the one who is tougher is not limited only by coin type either. There are lots of different things that play a part. For example, when it comes to special designations NGC is tougher than PCGS is. That alone covers how many different types of coins ? With some toning I believe NGC is tougher than PCGS, and with other toning I believe PCGS than NGC. Same thing goes with white coins. Same thing goes with problem coins. Same thing goes with modern coins, and same thing goes with classic coins. What I&#039;m trying to get across is that there are all kinds of reasons, different categories that a coin may fall into, for one to be tougher than the other. And sometimes, they (NGC &amp; PCGS) even reverse roles. </p><p><br /></p><p>What a lot of people don&#039;t realize is that NGC and PCGS are in constant competition with one another. Throughout their histories they have each done things, changed their standards, changed their company policies, all in the interest of offering something or doing something differently in order to attract more customers, or even steal customers away from the other guy. </p><p><br /></p><p>People seem to forget things like prior to 2001 (or thereabouts) NGC would not grade any coin minted after 1964. They wouldn&#039;t even look at them ! Then there are the issues of 6FS vs 5FS, NGC changed their policy and finally agreed to grade 5FS coins just so they could get customers back that they had lost to PCGS because PCGS was more liberal when grading these coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>There aren&#039;t any set rules Winged. These 2 companies play against each other just like all other businesses play against each other. They will do whatever they have to do to try and get business for themselves and take it away from the other guy. And they do this by setting themselves apart and making themselves different than the other guy. So with some copper coins NGC is tougher than PCGS and with other copper coins PCGS is tougher than NGC. The sate statement applies to silver coins and gold coins - and all of the other variables that I mentioned above.</p><p><br /></p><p>It used to be that experienced collectors and experienced dealers on the various coin forums would readily agree on exactly which company was tougher on exactly which type of coins. But over the years, with all of the changes that each company has made those lines have blurred. And things are not that cut and dried anymore. In today&#039;s world there are too many other variables involved and each of those variables plays a part in deciding which company is tougher on which coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>And it also used to be that the collectors and dealers who submitted coins would as a general rule submit their coins, depending on what the coin was, to the company that was known to be tougher on that particular coin. But even that has changed. And it has changed because now there is a large segment of people who will submit their coins to the company that they believe is easiest on that particular coin. And they do this because there are so many plastic buyers out there now, they they know they can get better prices for their coin by going with the company most likely to assign the highest grade to that particular coin. And of course the TPGs know this, so they play up to it as well and give their customers what they want. And that helps create repeat business for them.</p><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s just like with the different types of slabs. Each company is known for using a particular slab design for a particular period of years. So if you can identify the slab design, you can pin down the period of years during which that slab design was used. And if you can identify the time period, then you can also identify the grading standards that particular company was known for at that time. And since their standards and policies changed at various periods of time, it makes a difference as to which was the tougher when that coin was graded. There is just a ton of stuff to know in order to figure it all out !</p><p><br /></p><p>Or, you can throw it all out the window, and grade the coin yourself <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Of course the TPGs love discussions like this. It&#039;s candy for them. Discussions like this tend to polarize readers into their separate camps resulting in the fans of each becoming even more adamant in the belief that they have made the right choice. Not even realizing that that is exactly what the company wants.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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