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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;WingedLiberty, post: 1439376, member: 26030&quot;]This is a more lit up image showing the surfaces a bit better but losing the luster ... however note that this was shot with my iPhone that is AWFUL with detailed close-ups.&nbsp; Still god-bless NGC for MS67&#039;ing this one; but I think there are just too many field flaws (look at the fields in front of Miss Liberty&#039;s nose and chin) for PCGS to MS67 this (so PCGS will probably want to MS66 this).&nbsp;&nbsp; It does have a clean cheek, but I just don&#039;t think it will be quite enough.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>I take it from your post that NGC has a tendency to &quot;bump up&quot; the grade based on toning/color (visual appeal) in spite of the details and surfaces?&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe that is why my NGC coins never upgrade when going from NGC to PCGS.&nbsp; I tend to buy coins that I consider to be visually appealing (and that might be the exact case where NGC may have bumped the grade up above where the surfaces would warrant).&nbsp; Maybe that is the key I&#039;ve been looking for expaining why my NGC coins always&nbsp; cross &quot;at grade&quot; or lower, but never higher when crossing to PCGS.&nbsp; (Thanks for mentioning that point).</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://mindstar.com/cointalk_photos/BigO_500.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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