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<p>[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 1439209, member: 36230"]Your point in that thread may have been better made had it not been intertwined with contradictions of previous claims (dead issue anyway).</p><p><br /></p><p>While you may not see the benefit of non-number grades, many including myself do. How can you knock the old ways and then turn round and defend subjectivity in grading? This is another contradiction. What is so wrong with calling a coin I view as an AU55 and you view as a AU58 "choice AU"? There is nothing wrong with it, and if you take the time to think about it, the old so-called "letter grades" were superior in some ways to the numbers used today. It is simply a different method that has its place.. just as TPGs and number grades have their place.</p><p><br /></p><p>With all due respect, dude, I find it hard to understand what your issue is with the "old days". Coins are still offered as "BU", "AU", "VG", etc and there is nothing wrong with this. Actually, what this does is put some level of responsibility on the buyer and makes grading knowledge a necessity. What difference is there if a dealer in 1970 marked a lifeless, lusterless coin as "BU" to the guy who does the same today? If you do not agree, don't buy it... problem solved. Same goes for TPG graded coins.. if you do not agree, don't buy the coin. If you are a collector, why care about the consistency of others? Your consistency is what should matter, right?</p><p><br /></p><p>Knowledge and experience were the key then, just as they are the key today. I believe one of the greatest aspects of coins to be that we can agree to disagree. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In a way, yes... but if you are okay with buying a coin retail sight unseen just because NGC or PCGS has deemed it MSxx, you just may be setting yourself up for some serious disappointment. Which carries more risk.. buying a coin sight unseen because a TPG graded it or buying only from trusted sources (slabbed or raw)? If you deal with the right person, safe sight unseen purchases have always been possible, but as previously stated, you need to be able to trust yourself.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BooksB4Coins, post: 1439209, member: 36230"]Your point in that thread may have been better made had it not been intertwined with contradictions of previous claims (dead issue anyway). While you may not see the benefit of non-number grades, many including myself do. How can you knock the old ways and then turn round and defend subjectivity in grading? This is another contradiction. What is so wrong with calling a coin I view as an AU55 and you view as a AU58 "choice AU"? There is nothing wrong with it, and if you take the time to think about it, the old so-called "letter grades" were superior in some ways to the numbers used today. It is simply a different method that has its place.. just as TPGs and number grades have their place. With all due respect, dude, I find it hard to understand what your issue is with the "old days". Coins are still offered as "BU", "AU", "VG", etc and there is nothing wrong with this. Actually, what this does is put some level of responsibility on the buyer and makes grading knowledge a necessity. What difference is there if a dealer in 1970 marked a lifeless, lusterless coin as "BU" to the guy who does the same today? If you do not agree, don't buy it... problem solved. Same goes for TPG graded coins.. if you do not agree, don't buy the coin. If you are a collector, why care about the consistency of others? Your consistency is what should matter, right? Knowledge and experience were the key then, just as they are the key today. I believe one of the greatest aspects of coins to be that we can agree to disagree. In a way, yes... but if you are okay with buying a coin retail sight unseen just because NGC or PCGS has deemed it MSxx, you just may be setting yourself up for some serious disappointment. Which carries more risk.. buying a coin sight unseen because a TPG graded it or buying only from trusted sources (slabbed or raw)? If you deal with the right person, safe sight unseen purchases have always been possible, but as previously stated, you need to be able to trust yourself.[/QUOTE]
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