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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1439054, member: 26030"]A few more examples of NGC coins that I crossed to PCGS. I have probably crossed close to 20 coins (admittedly a relatively small sample):</p><p><br /></p><p>- I have NEVER had the grade go up when crossing to PCGS (not saying that can't happen, it's just never happened to me!)</p><p><br /></p><p>- Crossing grades have always been either the same or less by up to 2 grades when going into a PCGS slab. </p><p><br /></p><p> - I have had a few NGC graded slabbed coins that PCGS wouldn't grade at all, due to what PCGS termed "Questionable Color" -- for these coins PCGS left the coins in the NGC slabs in which they were submitted. </p><p><br /></p><p>So when you send an NGC slabbed coin to PCGS, they will will leave it in the NGC slab until after they are sure it will cross to PCGS as a gradeable coin (you can actually specify the minimum grade you will accept from PCGS) -- that way the value is not distroyed in case you are never able to get NGC to slab it again of if the value of the higher grade in the NGC slab is much above the lower grade that PCGS would have placed on it. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have heard of a few people that cracked out an NGC slabbed coin only to find later on that neither PCGS or NGC will slab it again as market acceptible (ouch). That can amount to a big loss in marketable value.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are two more samples of some of the coins I have crossed from NGC to PCGS:</p><p><br /></p><p>This was an NGC Proof <b>68</b> that I bought off ebay ... It crossed 2 grades down to Proof <b>66</b> in a PCGS slab</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]176795.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH]176796.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Next is an NGC Proof <b>66</b> that I bought off ebay ... that crossed to PCGS 1 grade down at Proof <b>65</b>. It's interesting that NGC thought this was a BN and PCGS thought it was a RB. All you need is 5% mint red color for a RB designation so I suppose it depends on whether the grader thought the red in the coin was original mint red or not. I have to admit that to my eye, this does look like original mint red color, so I think PCGS's RB color designation is correct, while NGC's BN color designation was incorrect.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]176793.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH]176794.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I have had some cross at grade however. I think my success rate at crossing at grade is probably a bit less than 50%. I have had the least luck crossing copper coins at grade. The most luck with silver coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1439054, member: 26030"]A few more examples of NGC coins that I crossed to PCGS. I have probably crossed close to 20 coins (admittedly a relatively small sample): - I have NEVER had the grade go up when crossing to PCGS (not saying that can't happen, it's just never happened to me!) - Crossing grades have always been either the same or less by up to 2 grades when going into a PCGS slab. - I have had a few NGC graded slabbed coins that PCGS wouldn't grade at all, due to what PCGS termed "Questionable Color" -- for these coins PCGS left the coins in the NGC slabs in which they were submitted. So when you send an NGC slabbed coin to PCGS, they will will leave it in the NGC slab until after they are sure it will cross to PCGS as a gradeable coin (you can actually specify the minimum grade you will accept from PCGS) -- that way the value is not distroyed in case you are never able to get NGC to slab it again of if the value of the higher grade in the NGC slab is much above the lower grade that PCGS would have placed on it. I have heard of a few people that cracked out an NGC slabbed coin only to find later on that neither PCGS or NGC will slab it again as market acceptible (ouch). That can amount to a big loss in marketable value. Here are two more samples of some of the coins I have crossed from NGC to PCGS: This was an NGC Proof [B]68[/B] that I bought off ebay ... It crossed 2 grades down to Proof [B]66[/B] in a PCGS slab [ATTACH]176795.vB[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]176796.vB[/ATTACH] Next is an NGC Proof [B]66[/B] that I bought off ebay ... that crossed to PCGS 1 grade down at Proof [B]65[/B]. It's interesting that NGC thought this was a BN and PCGS thought it was a RB. All you need is 5% mint red color for a RB designation so I suppose it depends on whether the grader thought the red in the coin was original mint red or not. I have to admit that to my eye, this does look like original mint red color, so I think PCGS's RB color designation is correct, while NGC's BN color designation was incorrect. [ATTACH]176793.vB[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]176794.vB[/ATTACH] I have had some cross at grade however. I think my success rate at crossing at grade is probably a bit less than 50%. I have had the least luck crossing copper coins at grade. The most luck with silver coins.[/QUOTE]
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